Happy fall listeners! We're getting pretty jazzed about a gentle gourd season.

We're also excited to share Episode 3, in which we discuss a widespread phenomenon we've all experienced, and the differences between common male and female approaches to navigating it. That's right, it's time for the friend zone conversation. Would it surprise you to learn that Erin and I dislike it intensely? And that it's led to awkward social situations?! Spoilers: accidental sexting, subway goodbyes, and some serious backyard BBQ debates.

Before we debate and laugh with a new friend of the show (David), we discuss passionate and, potentially, although not necessarily, romantic friendships between women in conservative, middle-class America prior to World War I. Turns out in the past there were a lot more options besides "just friends" and "more than friends" for women. Listen on to hear how Alexander Hamilton fits in to all of this and how historians have put gay relationships in the friend zone.

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