Episode 3
Update: 2025-05-06
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This is episode 3 (part 2) because during the first attempt at filming this episode, Mike had his microphone turned around backwards. When they finally got it together, Mike calls Joe a narcissist, Joe talks about recovery, and Mike fires questions at Joe relentlessly. Joe also talks about his transition from full time counselor/part time musician and photographer/videographer, to being a full time entrepreneur.
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