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Episode 34: How to Tell if a Song is About Jesus or Your Boyfriend, with Jeremiah, Julia, and Nicole

Episode 34: How to Tell if a Song is About Jesus or Your Boyfriend, with Jeremiah, Julia, and Nicole

Update: 2022-04-03
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Jesus or my Boyfriend? A question we all ask ourselves. Or, maybe not. In this episode, Jeremiah, Julia, and I (Nicole) play the guessing game, Jesus or my Boyfriend? Where Jeremiah and Julia tell me lyrics and I have to guess if it is a Christian worship song or a pop song. I grew up in a Romanian Eastern Orthodox Church, so I never had exposure to American worship music. Though some of the same themes still hold (i.e. the idea of being born a sinner, devoting yourself to God fully etc.), we didn’t have catchy ballads.

We explored what Christian messaging was in the worship songs, how one word is the only difference between a song about sex and a song about God, and how horny Christians might actually be. I mean, this music makes Jesus seem pretty horny. One of my biggest takeaways from this episode is how exposure to this worship music is actually really dangerous for children because messaging around servitude and devotion (especially for young girls) can be really damaging.

Jesus Completes Us (17:00 ): When discussing In Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel, Julia speaks on how the lyrics of this song could be interpreted as a worship song: “In your eyes the light, the heat, I am complete” is the lyric, and Julia says “We are not complete generally without Jesus” in the eyes of the Church. This song was a tough guess, but we all know there is no “heat” allowed in Church spaces, as Nicole mentions after.

Musical Manipulation (21:00 ): After discussing the song “The More I Seek You” by Hillsong, Jeremiah explains a Discovery Channel documentary about Hillsong, which is essentially a factory for producing worship songs, and he says “lots of musical manipulation” (22:18 ) when talking about the kinds of worship songs Hillsong is pumping out. Jeremiah and Julia highly recommend watching the documentary Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed. Jeremiah then notes how in the book “This is Your Brain on Music” the author discusses how pop singers use certain cord progressions to evoke specific emotions and how Hillsong is the master of this.

Born Sinning (27:30 ): When talking about Nicole’s guess about if a song is Jesus or My Boyfriend, she explains what gave away the lyrics “I’ve done wrong and I want to suffer for my sins. I’ve come to you because I need guidance to be true” (Criminal by Fiona Apple) to be “my boyfriend” and not a worship song: “Christians would just be like I have sinned. I am not coming to you, I am disgusting I have sinned.” The distinction being made here is that in worship songs it is usually centering the fact that people are inherently sinners, while this song differs from that ideology by seeking help and framing it is a sin that happened not one that was born into people.

Defined by Sin (31:00 ): Julia says “Christianity really likes to define you by your sins.” A big topic when discussing the songs chosen for this episode is the intentional wording choices for the lyrics in these songs. Just the difference between “I have sinned” and “I am a sinner” is a way to tell if a song is using creative choices or a worship song that wants to instill negative Christian ideology in its listeners.

If you want some spoilers, here is the complete list of songs we analyzed in this episode:

1. Your Love is Extravagant -- Casting Crowns
2. Hallelujah -- Brenton Brown
3. In Your Eyes -- Peter Gabriel
4. The More I Seek You -- Hillsong
5. Only Hope -- Mandy Moore
6. All My Life -- KCi and Jojo (Jeremiah’s favorite song growing up)
7. Pour My Love on You -- Phillips, Craig, and Dean
8. Criminal -- Fiona Apple (One of my favorite songs ever)
9. In the Secret -- Chris Tomlin
10. Save Tonight -- Eagle Eye Cherry (A contender on Julia’s best songs of all time list)
11. I Surrender -- Hillsong
12. Toto -- Africa (Another contender on Julia’s best songs of all time list)
13. I Want It That Way -- N'Sync (Objectively the best song of all time [that’s just my opinion)
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Episode 34: How to Tell if a Song is About Jesus or Your Boyfriend, with Jeremiah, Julia, and Nicole

Episode 34: How to Tell if a Song is About Jesus or Your Boyfriend, with Jeremiah, Julia, and Nicole

Jeremiah Gibson and Julia Postema