In episode four of The Good Oil Podcast, Cam talks with Penny Marie — investigative journalist, researcher, and founder of Let Kids Be Kids NZ. Penny doesn’t hold back. She’s a fierce advocate for transparency in schools and stronger parental involvement, and she's deeply critical of the direction New Zealand’s education system is heading, especially when it comes to gender ideology and sexuality education. This is an open, honest, and gutsy conversation that needs to be heard.

Penny Marie's video 'Sex Education Experts?' She raises questions about Tabby Besley's InsideOut and Tracy Clelland who developed 'Beyond the Birds and Bees' app: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lpl78M1ojU

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