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In this very special cross-over episode, I’m talking to Stacey Copeland, audio producer extraordinaire and the project manager of the SpokenWeb Podcast, which I also host! We talk about our feminist scholarly awakenings, the gendered policing of women’s voices, what queer media sounds like, and why we should be listening to archival audio more. Here are some links:

• To learn more about Stacey’s work you can check out her website and follow her on Twitter
• I talked a bit about how important Judith Butler’s Gender Trouble was to my undergraduate feminist awakening
• Stacey discussed her fascination with Love is Blind and recommended this article about our fascination with “sexy baby voice”
• On the topic of women’s voices, I’ll never stop linking to Anne Friedman’s iconic “Can We Just, Like, Get Over the Way Women Talk?” and this This American Life story on hate mail over women’s vocal fry
• You can check out the Archives of Lesbian Oral Testimony to learn more about The Lesbian Show. Stacey also wished to issue the correction that The Lesbian Show discussed not baseball but track and field.
• Check out Mermaid Palace to learn more about podcasts like The Heart and Asking For It
• Also, for your consideration: Queer Public
• And while you’re in a listening mood, check out the Constellations audio project
• One last recommendation: for some beautiful queer counter-history, watch A Secret Love (get ready to cry, tho)

The podcast theme song is “Mesh Shirt” by Mom Jeans off their album “Chub Rub.” Listen to the whole album here or learn more about them here. Stacey’s theme song was “Time Travel” by Blouse.

Secret Feminist Agenda is recorded and produced by Hannah McGregor on the traditional and unceded territories of the Squamish, Musqueam, and Tsleil-Waututh First Nations.