Dan and Sarah welcome back to the podcast two previous guests, Dr. Bob Macauley and Dr. Chris Adrian, to discuss writing books about pediatric palliative care, as well as how our clinical practice, narratives, and personal trauma can all interact in sometimes unexpected ways.

Content warning: This episode includes discussion of child sexual abuse.

Click the link here to buy Dr. Macauley's new book: Because I Knew You

Proceeds from book sales benefit the OHSU Pediatric Palliative Care Team and Darkness to Light (https://www.d2l.org/), an organization dedicated to ending child sexual abuse.