Episode 9: Microservices are Interesting with Les Jackson
Description
Sponsored by Reblaze, creators of Curiefense
Panelists
Justin Dorfman | Richard Littauer | Tzury Bar Yochay
Guest
Les Jackson
Developer Advocate · Author
Show Notes
Hello and welcome to Committing to Cloud Native Podcast! It’s the podcast by Reblaze where we talk about open source maintainers, contributors, sustainers, and their experiences in the Cloud Native space. Today, we have an exceptional guest, Les Jackson, who is a Developer Advocate at Marketplacer. Find out what Les does at Marketplacer, the story of how his awesome YouTube channel and the Dotnet Playbook started, and the idea behind his book, The Complete ASP.NET Core 3 API Tutorial, developed. Also, Les explains what got him started doing Cloud Data content, and his interest in using Envoy to make microservices. Download this episode now to find out much more!
[00:01:53 ] Les tells us about himself, how he ended up a developer, and how he got to where he is now.
[00:04:11 ] We find out what Les does as a Developer Advocate for Marketplacer and the main frameworks and languages that he uses.
[00:06:07 ] Les tells us the story of how his YouTube channel and the Dotnet Playbook started.
[00:07:39 ] We learn the story behind Les writing a book called, The Complete ASP.NET Core 3 API Tutorial.
[00:12:22 ] Les talks about what got him started doing Cloud Data content. Also, he mentions an API Gateway called Ocelot.
[00:16:13 ] Les explains his creative process and why he was interested in using Envoy to begin with to make microservices.
[00:20:29 ] Tzury wonders if Les was always around Microsoft tech.
[00:25:57 ] If Les wrote another book, he tells us what it would be about.
[00:29:23 ] Richard asks Les if he can speak more about how he feels that open source has influenced his time as a YouTube code reviewer and code maker.
[00:32:45 ] Richard shares his thoughts about whether providing a credit card to sign up is a barrier to entry to adopting Cloud.
[00:35:18 ] Tzury asks what efforts Les is taking as Developer Advocates, in making sure what code people are writing and using on your platform, and if they provide guidelines, tutorials, or tools for testing.
[00:37:40 ] Find out where you can follow Les online.
Quotes
[00:14:25 ] “They then pivoted to Envoy, and I thought this looks like a really interesting platform, so that’s actually where the idea for the video came from.”
[00:17:03 ] “But going back to why do I find microservices interesting, I think cause you kind of mentioned possibly, they’re hard, so it’s a bit of a problem. They’re really not an easy thing to implement.”
[00:17:25 ] “And I think I did mention that again, I’ve looked at some reference architectures and often what I like to do is pick them apart and kind of reverse engineer them to see if I can get them to work, because often I can’t get them to work out of the box where they maybe give you everything you need, do you try and run them up and there’s just this whole morass of errors.”
[00:19:05 ] “So, that’s why I picked Envoy, number one, I think it’s going to be around for a while.”
[00:23:15 ] “What actually got me back into development, one of the things that got me back into it was when Microsoft brought out .NET Core, which is this kind of open source secondary branch.”
[00:30:20 ] “Open source has completely changed things.”
[00:30:55 ] “Going back twenty years, everything was kind of locked down. You had to pay for absolutely everything and the quality wasn’t even sometimes that particularly good.”
[00:33:10 ] “On the flip side, what I think that people who are proponents of Cloud Native things, and I think that’s really interesting technology. So, I thought about why is it good is because it just gives you so much more massive power then you’re able to do at home.”
Links
Cloud Native Community Groups-Curifense
The Complete ASP.NET Core 3 API Tutorial by Les Jackson
The Kubelist Podcast-Episode 13-Curifense with Tzury Bar Yochay and Justin Dorfman of Reblaze
Credits
- Executive Produced by Tzury Bar Yochay
- Produced by Justin Dorfman
- Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound
- Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound
- Transcript by Layten Pryce
Transcript
[00:00:01 ] Intro: A problem that really not an easy thing to implement. And I totally understand why people maintain monoliths for such a long time, because going to microservices architecture is very difficult. And so I think that just appeals to me to try and pick it apart. And I think I did mention that again, I've looked to some reference architectures and often I like to do is pick them apart and kind of reverse engineer them to see if I can get them to work.
[00:00:27 ] Richard Littauer: Hello, and welcome to Committing to Cloud Natives, the podcast where we talk about committing to both open source and the Cloud. How do they go together, how they work to make a better internet world, and how we're here to make sure that we can continue doing awesome stuff with Cloud technology? Today, we have two other panelists besides me. I'm Richard Littauer. Hello everyone. We also have Justin Dorfman. Justin, how you doing?
[00:00:52 ] Justin Dorfman: I'm great, Richard. How are you?
[00:00:54 ] Richard: Doing good. Thanks for being here. And we have Tzury Bar Yochay. Tzury, how are you doing?
[00:01:00 ] Tzury Bar Yochay: Doing great, Richard. Thank you.
[00:01:02 ] Richard: Excellent. And because we don't necessarily like recording talking to just ourselves, we also have a guest on today as is normal. Our guest, however, hopefully, is not normal, but rather an exceptional person. I'm really excited to introduce him. We have Les Jackson. He's calling in today from Melbourne. He is a developer advocate at Marketplacer and has done a ton of really interesting stuff in this space. Les, how are you doing today?
[00:01:30 ] Les Jackson: I am very good. Thank you. I'm very flattered that you would call me exceptional. I'm not sure that's the case, but I will accept your compliment. Thank you very much.
[00:01:40 ] Richard: So Les, you also do a few other things. First off, to just background, to me, it's really obv
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