3 generations of practitioners talk about all things Tui Na and acupuncture. Dr Chris is joined by guests Martin McKenzie and Ivan McWilliams, Chinese Medicine practitioners in Australia with a passion for Tui Na massage.

After studying Oriental medicine and practices such as qigong and shiatsu, Martin found himself as a student to Ivan in an 8-month apprenticeship where he learned first-hand the clinical application of Tui Na. Since then, the pair have remained close and after almost a decade of gathering techniques, case studies, treatment approaches, and protocols, they are now on the home stretch of completing their collaborative effort - Tui Na: an integrative approach - a comprehensive guide and resource for students and practitioners.

We apologies for the technical difficulties we experienced in the last 5 minutes of filming.

Topics of Conversation

- Using Tui Na as a primary form of therapy for illness
- The development of Tui Na in Australia
- Apprenticing in China for acupuncture and Tui Na
- How acupuncture is done in China compared to the Western world
- Transference of energy and feeling into your patients' pain
- Esoteric yet effective ways to get great results
- Demon hunting for health and wellbeing