Didier Elzinga, Culture Amp's CEO, drops bombshell insights about why most leaders get growth wrong, reveals shocking data about manager vs. leader impact, and explains why treating feedback like an all-you-can-eat menu is destroying companies.

Didier sits down with Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church for a conversation about company culture, data, and mapping the world of work on two axes—trust versus mission.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00 ) Intro

(02:50 ) From Harry Potter to CultureAmp CEO

(04:51 ) CultureAmp in the Film Industry & Anonymous Feedback

(08:40 ) Culture-First Companies & the Importance of Resilience

(13:24 ) Current Trends in Employee Engagement & Expectations

(15:12 ) Sponsor: Metaview

(16:24 ) The Future of Employer-Employee Relationships

(19:20 ) Enduring Truths in Culture & Growth

(21:13 ) Growth, Ambiguity, and Leadership

(23:54 ) Data-Driven Insights & Addressing Gender Gaps

(27:20 ) The Director to VP Transition & Hard Lessons

(31:45 ) Influencing Change & the Power of Data

(33:55 ) The Value & Limitations of Engagement Surveys

(37:45 ) Defining Strategy & the Feedback "Workout"

(39:01 ) CultureAmp's Non-Negotiables & Growth

(43:07 ) The Power of Storytelling & Authenticity

(46:32 ) Wrap

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