In this episode, Nolan and Kelli talks with Silicon Valley prodigy turned seasoned operator and former Google director Jared Fliesler.

From revolutionizing feedback systems to challenging the "founder mode" hype, Jared shares raw insights from his journey as Silicon Valley's youngest executive.

But that's just the beginning – he also unveils the psychological trap keeping high achievers perpetually unfulfilled (hint: it's not what you think), and shares the counterintuitive secret to genuine satisfaction.

Whether you're a startup founder, HR leader, or ambitious professional, this episode will fundamentally change how you think about performance, leadership, and success. Warning: your perspective on workplace traditions will never be the same.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:13 ) Intro

(00:59 ) Radical Performance Review Process 

(06:18 ) Getting the CEO on Board

(08:48 ) People Operations as Core Business

(10:20 ) The Move Away from Performance Reviews

(10:50 ) Feedback Systems for Introverts

(12:07 ) The Semantics of Performance Reviews

(12:48 ) Experimenting with Performance Reviews

(13:52 ) Founder Mode

(19:18 ) Sponsor: Metaview

(20:10 ) Copy-pasting Culture Decks

(20:54 ) Revolt Against Traditional Management

(21:46 ) Fandiger Mounder

(22:16 ) Treating People Like Wrists

(24:14 ) Being the Youngest Person in the Room

(27:37 ) The Importance of EQ

(28:42 ) Layoff Experience

(30:35 ) The Ego Trap

(32:38 ) Founder Coaching

(33:03 ) Jared's Coaching Practice

(37:21 ) Hiring and Firing in Hyper Growth

(37:54 ) Hire With Speed, Fire with Respect

(42:00 ) The Cost of PIPs

(43:04 ) The Importance of Respect

(43:52 ) The Hedonic Treadmill

(48:06 ) Gratitude as the Antidote

(48:22 ) Wrap

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