On today’s episode, Know Your Role(s) welcomes filmmaker, writer, performer, & podcast host Desmond Thorne to the pod! On tap in today’s Bar Talk are Paul Thomas Anderson’s upcoming ninth film “Licorice Pizza,” George and Dave’s predictions for “The Challenge,” and the posthumous release of David Bowie’s 2001 record “Toy.” Desmond takes listeners behind the mic of his brilliant podcast “Adventures in Black Cinema,” shares his personal influences from David Lynch to “Atlanta,” and offers his take on the film industry’s evolution towards a more inclusive and equitable environment. This episode’s game deserves a full orchestral accompaniment, as Desmond and the fellas compare film scores to desserts, from Cliff Martinez’s “Drive” ice cream sandwich to Danny Elfman’s “Beetlejuice” dutch apple pie! In today’s Last Call, Dave gets excited for the WNBA playoffs, while George preps for a stand-up gig at NY Comedy Club on October 10th. Producer Mary Bess touches on failings at the US border and celebrates a win for trans representation in the German Parliament!

Resources: See “Licorice Pizza” in theaters November 26, 2021. Watch “The Challenge” at 8:00 pm ET/PT Wednesdays on MTV. David Bowie’s “Toy” will be released on January 7th, 2022. US Capitol switchboard (202) 224-3121. Black Alliance for Just Immigration (BAJI) @instabaji / @bajitweet / baji.org. Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES) @raicestexas / raicestexas.org.

Guest: Desmond Thorne / IG: @desmondthorne / TW: @DesmondThorne.

Hosted By: George Gordon & David Kleinman. 

Produced By: Mary Bess Pritchett.

Music: Alnitak Kid, Nate 88, & Cazeaux OSLO.

Artwork: Amanda Xeller.

IG & TW: @kyrpod.