Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, and Jordan Gal to dissect Jason Cohen's latest skills, particularly the 'Find Your Carol' AI exercise that reveals how customers truly perceive a business. The trio debates aggressive growth experiments versus refining existing funnels, analyzing why street interviews might outperform traditional UGC ads for prospecting. They also tackle the strategic decision of whether to keep product features bundled or spin them off into separate brands, while reflecting on the changing landscape of SaaS valuations and the challenges of maintaining energy as a solo founder.

Chapters:

• (00:10 ) - Welcome and Introduction


• (00:30 ) - Jason Cohen's Hidden Multipliers


• (06:46 ) - Growth Experiment Mode


• (11:06 ) - New Ad Formats and Street Interviews


• (20:05 ) - Unconventional Marketing Strategies


• (38:23 ) - Low Energy and Company of One


• (45:45 ) - Building Systems with AI Agents


• (59:45 ) - Twitter Story and Workshop Updates


• (01:10:13 ) - Spots.fm Marketplace Strategy


• (01:22:09 ) - Buying vs Selling a Business


• (01:31:33 ) - Separate Brands for Different Markets


• (01:38:01 ) - Diversification and Exit Multiples


• (01:41:11 ) - ARR vs EBITDA Valuation


• (01:44:30 ) - Closing and Feedback

Mentioned in this episode:

• Hidden Multipliers: Jumpstart Growth With Your Existing Budget and Team by Jason Cohen
• Find Your Carol | Skills from A Smart Bear
• Come to Charleston AI for all of your AI needs (r/TrueAnon)
• OrbanAI — AI agents that run inside your systems
• Tim Aton (@Tim_Aton) on X
• Company Of One: Why Staying Small Is the Next Big Thing for Business by Paul Jarvis
• Andrew Warner (@AndrewWarner) on X
• What Are Orbs? - Amp
• Spots.fm — Sponsor independent creators
• Kit: The Platform for Creators