Julia is an award-winning writer and tv presenter from Australia. In this week's pod she discusses her beautiful book Phosphorescence which explores themes of awe and wonder and her quest to find luminosity in the ocean and beyond. We can all find our inner light sometimes in the smallest of things…  

Schadenfreude is the malicious enjoyment derived from someone else’s misfortune; schadenfreude and Julia Baird are the complete opposite.

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