In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ sits down with Dr. Roger Chickering, Professor Emeritus of History at Georgetown University and author of The German Empire, 1871–1918. Together they unpack the rise of modern Germany, the role of Bismarck and Wilhelm II, and how debates around the Sonderweg thesis shape our understanding of the First World War and the path to WWII.

Dr. Chickering explores the political dynamics of the German Empire, from the struggles between liberals, conservatives, Catholics, and socialists, to Germany’s ambitious welfare programs and colonial pursuits. He also reflects on what lessons Germany’s history offers us today, including warnings about populism, authoritarianism, and the dangers of unchecked hegemonic ambition.

Make sure to check out Dr. Chickering's book: The German Empire, 1871–1918 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1107026741

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Who thinks that they can subdue Leviathan? Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. When it rises up, the mighty are terrified. Nothing on earth is its equal. It is without fear. It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all who are proud. 

These words inspired PJ Wehry to create Chasing Leviathan. Chasing Leviathan was born out of two ideals: that truth is worth pursuing but will never be subjugated, and the discipline of listening is one of the most important habits anyone can develop. 

Every episode is a dialogue, a journey into the depths of a meaningful question explored through the lens of personal experience or professional expertise.