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Feeling stuck in a linear career path or struggling to see yourself as creative? In this illuminating conversation, Rhonda Jolyean Hale , founder of Jolyean Creative, overturns conventional thinking about creativity, career progression, and personal transformation.

Rhonda's journey took her from changing college majors seven times to nonprofit work, executive coaching, and eventually corporate burnout—before discovering a powerful approach to healing through what she calls "aesthetic exploration." With warmth and wisdom, she explains how reconnecting with beauty and creativity became her pathway not just to recovery, but to founding a business centered on helping people "transform in a more beautiful way."

The conversation delves into our fundamental human need for beauty and sensory experience—a need that traditional change models often overlook. Whether you're navigating personal change or leading organizational transformation, Rhonda offers practical insights on incorporating aesthetic elements to make change more effective and enjoyable. She shares fascinating research from the emerging field of neuroaesthetics about how our environments affect our wellbeing and performance.

Perhaps most empowering is Rhonda's passionate belief that everyone is inherently creative. "Just as you were born with the ability of language," she explains, "you were born with the ability to be creative." The difference lies in how this creativity expresses itself—through parenting, problem-solving, cooking, gardening, or countless other outlets beyond traditional "artistic" pursuits.

Discover how becoming a "mirror believer" for others can help them achieve their dreams, why workspace design matters more than we realize, and how Rhonda's nonprofit Pass the Bricks Project is using Legos to bring joy and creativity to children in need. This conversation will leave you inspired to embrace your creative potential and transform your approach to change—in work and in life.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhondajhale/

https://www.jolyean.com/

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