From Chef to Systems Thinker: Rethinking Food from the Ingredient Up
Description
In this episode of Fugitive Chefs, we speak with Frederik Jensen — a former fine-dining chef who left the restaurant world to tackle the food system from the inside out.
From working in Michelin-starred kitchens in Copenhagen, Shanghai, and Tokyo, to co-founding the food innovation powerhouse Chew, Frederik has now launched Nutrumami (https://www.nutrumami.com/) — a company focused on creating clean-label, multifunctional ingredients that can help reshape how we eat.
We discuss:
– The reality of kitchen culture in Japan, Denmark, and China
– Why chefs are uniquely positioned to drive food innovation
– Building Neutromami to fight ultra-processed food through better ingredients
– The misunderstood world of clean label, fermentation, and scale
– What chefs bring to R&D teams in FMCG
Whether you're a chef considering a new path, a food scientist, or just someone curious about the future of food — this episode is packed with insight, honesty, and a vision for better food at scale.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Frederick Jensen
01:33 Early Influences and Culinary Journey
04:56 Culinary Education and Apprenticeship
07:36 Experiences in Shanghai and Japan
11:45 Cultural Insights from Japanese Kitchens
18:14 Transitioning to Concept Creation and Business
27:02 The Birth of Chew and Its Vision
27:46 The Birth of a Food Innovation Lab
30:41 Merging Culinary Arts with Science
33:29 The Role of Chefs in Food Innovation
36:39 Navigating the Challenges of Food Development
40:31 The Transition to Nutrumami
44:20 Innovating with Multifunctional Ingredients
46:09 The Debate on Ultra-Processed Foods
52:17 The Future of Plant-Based Products
56:13 Government Regulations and Market Dynamics
01:02:02 Advice for Aspiring Food Innovators