Have you ever found yourself stuck in the “messy middle”—not quite at rock bottom, but not fully healed either? You’re not alone. In this episode of the Shine Within podcast, I sit down with the radiant and real Cat Greenleaf, the creator and former host of NBC’s Talk Stoop. For years, Cat graced our screens interviewing A-list celebrities—from musicians and actors to politicians and thought leaders. But her newest chapter? Even more powerful.

Now the host of Soberness, Cat is still interviewing big names—but this time, the conversation is about addiction, recovery, identity, and what it truly means to start over. She shares how her own journey pulled her out of the entertainment spotlight and into the heart of what really matters: truth, healing, and connection. We dive into why she believes “whatever works” is the most honest recovery philosophy, how she’s reframed sobriety without shame or perfection, and why rage, reinvention, and radical self-acceptance are crucial parts of the process.

This conversation is for anyone navigating a transformation, questioning their path, or just craving permission to be human. You’ll walk away feeling seen, supported, and inspired to trust your own timing.

✨ Listen now—and remember: there’s no perfect way to heal, only your way.

🐍Connect with Cat Greenleaf:

🌐 Website: https://soberness.com

Podcast:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soberness-podcast/id1768121457

YouTube:

https://youtube.com/@sobernesspodcast?si=wAPMRps6p0rEYpyG

Facebook:

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IG:

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CONNECT WITH GINA: 

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RESOURCES: 

My TEDx Talk

Sobriety: Unlocking Freedom | Gina Kunadian |

TEDxPort Saint Lucie

https://youtu.be/73OvW8T2VkM?si=tynb80rJPtCidORr

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6-Step Blueprint To An Alcohol-Free Life and navigate the action steps I took to stay sober. Text the word GIFT to 18556496196 or click this link:  https://6stepblueprint.ginakunadian.com/98hsk2

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