Kerry-Leigh Dougall (Ngāti Pahuwera, Ngāti Kahungunu ki te Wairoa), our next guest on Going Beyond the Predictable, carries a default identity of independence and self-reliance. It’s been a driving force behind her success, but it also comes with limitations.
In this episode, Marc and Jono sit down with Kerry-Leigh to talk about the fear of being let down, the cost of independence, and why asking for help can feelso difficult.
We explore how this pattern first appeared in her youth - when she longed to be seen and unseen all at once, and today - as a mother, grandmother, sister, friend, daughter, advocate and Chief Māori Officer - Pae Ora at the Department of Corrections.
Listen to the end to discover the unexpected hobby Kerry-Leigh has embraced to challenge her instinct to stay in control and go beyond her predictable. We think you'll be as impressed as we are!

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