In recent years, entrepreneur, activist, author, and Jewish mom of two Jenna Arnold criss-crossed the U.S., having conversations with countless groups of white women about their identities and their roles in our country. The result is her book, Raising Our Hands: How White Women Can Stop Avoiding Hard Conversations, Start Accepting Responsibility, and Find Our Place on the New Frontlines. Jordana and Shannon have a wide-ranging conversation with Jenna about what it means to be white and Jewish women in America. The trio discuss why talking about race can be difficult, how to learn from our mistakes, and how to start those much-needed "hard conversations with Uncle Bob on Thanksgiving."

Music:

"Voicemail" by Khronos Beats

"Best I Can" by Jasmine Jordan (ft. Habit Blcx)