Recorded at the Fountain Booth at SHRM National Chicago: June 2024

Heather Bussing is a California employment attorney with over 30 years’ experience providing sensible and strategic advice to employers. Her deep experience with business, humans, technology, and work gives her a unique perspective focused on preventing and solving problems rather than fighting about them.

Heather has been interviewed and quoted in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, CNN, Business Insider, and NPR. She writes a daily column on the latest in employment laws, covering pay equity and transparency, AI in HR Tech, and why compliance, diversity, and fairness are good business.



In this episode, Adam Posner interviews Heather Bussing, an attorney and recruiter, about employment law and hot topics in the field. They discuss conflicts over paid leave, the need for paid sick leave and family leave, and the challenges of balancing employee needs and employer interests. They also touch on the misuse of AI in recruiting and the importance of pay transparency and equity. Heather shares insights from her new book, 'Get Pay Right,' and emphasizes the need for faster progress in solving employment issues.


For more on Heather: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-bussing-785122161/

Book: https://www.amazon.com/Get-Pay-Right-Achieve-Equity/dp/1586446584

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Takeaways

- Conflicts over paid leave are a significant issue in employment law, with employers often wanting to limit leave and regulators recognizing the importance of providing paid sick leave and family leave.
- Finding a balance between employee needs and employer interests in terms of sick leave can be challenging, but providing a set amount of leave and allowing for discretion can help.
- The United States lags behind other countries in supporting new mothers and families; national regulation is needed to address this issue.
- AI can be misused in recruiting, leading to discrimination, bias, and flawed decision-making. Pay transparency and equity are essential in creating a fair and inclusive work environment.
- Heather's book, 'Get Pay Right,' provides insights into pay equity and is aimed at HR practitioners, leaders, and anyone interested in understanding and addressing pay inequities.