McKenna was diagnosed with bipolar II disorder, but that’s not her whole story—it’s just where it begins. After years of learning how to care for herself and manage her mental health, she’s now focused on leveling up: finding structure, channeling creativity, and getting things done without burning out. Plus, Steph and Robin try out the STOP technique for two weeks and give it a fun new name.

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