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On today’s show: Remember the Try Guys scandal of 2022? Yep, the scandal that TIME Magazine called one of the most viral moments of the year? Well, it’s just been given fresh oxygen: the man at the centre of the cheating fiasco, Ned Fulmer, has sat down with the woman he cheated on (the mother of his children, Ariel Fulmer) to unpack exactly what happened, and how they’d like to very much move on now, please. So, we’re going to walk you through the anatomy of this story, and unpack all of our thoughts about the podcast interview people can’t stop talking about right now.

This week, Zara recommended Three Days in June by Anne Tyler.

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