In this MINDGAMES episode, we're joined by NYU student, vice presidential daughter, and my good friend: Jillian Robredo. I've only known Jill for a short time but I've felt a kinship with her from the very first time we met so I knew I wanted her to be a guest on my podcast and introduce her to all of you as well.

In our conversation, we talked about our experiences growing up under similar family dynamics and how we handled the inevitable comparisons between us and our older sisters. We also bonded about our excursions abroad and how those trips helped us find our independence. Of course, we also discussed how we take care of our mental wellbeing and how we handle the pressure of being 20-something-year-olds with famous last names.