Chatting with Amy Edmondson about what makes a thriving team has been a career highlight! 
  
Season 2 of the Thriving Leaders Podcast is now live! 
  
And we’re kicking it off with the incredible Amy Edmondson—Novartis Harvard Professor, bestselling author,  and the world’s top-ranked management thinker. Her research has been pivotal to my work, and our conversation is full of insights that every leader needs to hear. 
  
Together, we explore what it takes to build not just high-performing teams, but learning teams—those that thrive through curiosity, psychological safety, and shared ownership. 
  
This conversation is energising, practical, and packed with insights you can take straight back to your team. 
 
In this episode, we cover:  

(00:00 ) – Introduction

(02:15 ) – The Real Difference Between Trust and Psychological Safety—and Why Both Matter

(10:30 ) – How to Create High-Quality Conversations in Your Team

(18:45 ) – Why We Need to Reframe Accountability as a Privilege, Not a Punishment

(27:20 ) – Why Leaders Shouldn’t Talk About Psychological Safety—and What to Focus on Instead

(35:50 ) – The Power of Intelligent Failure and How to Unlearn the Fear of Getting It Wrong

(45:00 ) – Final Thoughts

One of my favourite takeaways? Psychological safety isn’t the goal—it’s the environment that allows us to reach our goals. 
  
I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did. I’d love to hear what you took out of the conversation. 

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