I sit with Jacqueline, a woman who did everything “right.” The career, the structure, the striving. Until it all stopped working.

This conversation is about what happens when burnout hits and the version of you that’s been holding it all together… can’t anymore.

Jac shares how Ariise became the place she could finally exhale where vulnerability cracked her open and rest became medicine. We talk surrender, energy, and the kind of nothing that changes everything.

It’s about letting go of control, trusting the process, and remembering who you were before the burnout.

The Deep and The Deeper has moved to a new feed. You can find it by searching "The Deep by Zoe Marshall" in your favourite podcasting app or at the links below. Remember to hit "follow" on the new feed so you are notified of new episodes.

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Credits:

• Viel Yochingco - Producer
• Caleb Jacobs - Music
• Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner

Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep.

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Ariise acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

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