In his long career, U.S. Army Lieutenant General Mark Hertling (Ret.) has met and worked with presidents, monarchs, and military leaders from around the world. But he has also faced times of great adversity, including life-and-death combat situations, and moments that require the courage to “speak up for what’s right.” Mark Hertling currently serves as adjunct professor of strategic leadership at the Crummer School, and provides leadership development to physicians in healthcare organizations. Listen and learn from his perspective on the conflict in Ukraine, the current mental health crisis, what it means to be American, and what is worth fighting for.

01:32 -- Guest intro, discussion of the conflict in Ukraine


06:08 -- Leadership on the world stage, comparing Zelenskyy and Putin


08:45 -- The post-pandemic mental health crisis


14:18 -- What it means to be American, what’s worth fighting for


23:35 -- Backstory, attending U.S. Military Academy at West Point


29:45 -- Career journey, leaders “not allowed to have a bad day”


34:16 -- Mark Hertling’s Crummer experience, Growing Physician Leaders


43:52 -- Career advice, becoming a military analyst at CNN

Books


Growing Physician Leaders by Mark Hertling -- https://tinyurl.com/5n7e3bf

Resources


Crummer Graduate School of Business -- https://www.crummer.rollins.edu/


Medscape article on physician suicide -- https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/806779-overview


USO article on military suicides -- https://www.uso.org/stories/2664-military-suicide-rates-are-at-an-all-time-high-heres-how-were-trying-to-help


Profile of Christina Maslach, Ph.D. -- https://psychology.berkeley.edu/people/christina-maslach


U.S. Military Academy at West Point -- https://www.westpoint.edu/


Mark Hertling’s Twitter, @MarkHertling -- https://twitter.com/markhertling/status/1559941585542041602


Mark Hertling profile at CNN -- https://www.cnn.com/profiles/mark-hertling-profile


American Battlefield Monuments Commission -- https://www.abmc.gov/

Credits


Guest -- Mark Hertling, https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-hertling-dba-57987066/


https://crummer.rollins.edu/faculty/mark-hertling/


Production by Victor Media Group, Inc. -- https://victormediagroup.co/


Creator / Host -- J.B. Adams


Executive Producer -- Gerard Mitchell


Technical/Production Design -- Angel Colon


Technical/Production Assistance -- Hao Do, Dassika Gilkey, Jaianne Gilkey


Audio Editing -- Manni Simon