John Bennett, CEO of DLEM Holdings, reveals how his obsession with data nearly stalled his multi-agency empire—until one accidental escape room outing reignited growth.

In this heartfelt episode, John shares how culture saved his business, what he learned from six acquisitions (including one that led to an FBI raid), and the systems that allow his team to thrive across five states. From team rituals and storytelling to onboarding playbooks and Zingage gamification, John maps out how he’s scaling connections without losing control.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

1. The three types of home care companies—and why only one survives.

2. Why metrics without mission lead to burnout (and the celebration that proved it).

3. A 450-person picnic and the powerful phrase on the back of their shirts.

4. What really happens after an acquisition—and why one agency shut down after 3 years.

5. The two things every leader must prioritize: process or people.

Lesson Takeaways:

1. Culture creates momentum—and momentum drives growth.

2. “No margin, no mission”: If you can’t track it, you can’t sustain it.

3. Build scalable culture through rituals (like story-sharing, food, and gamification).

4. Delegate with structure: document what’s in your head, or you’ll stay the bottleneck.

5. Growth doesn’t happen because of metrics—it happens because people feel seen.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Welcome to Home Care Hindsight

01:30 - Introduction & John Bennett's Background

03:20 -  Addressing Death and Dying in Home Care

06:13 - How Different Companies Leverage Metrics for Impact

08:35 - Balancing Mission & Financial Savvy

10:10 - "Tell Us Your Story" Podcast Idea

13:15 - Overemphasis on Metrics & Neglecting Culture

16:39 - Quantifying Culture: Retention & Satisfaction

19:58 - Strategies for Employee Engagement

25:15 - The Importance of Caregiving

28:57 - Zingage & Caregiver Engagement Tech

29:36 - Mergers & Acquisitions Realities

35:48 - Delegation & Lessons from Acquisitions

36:30 - People vs. Processes in Business Expansion

39:46 - Documented Procedures & Scalability

42:05 - Financial Clarity & Long-Term Planning

43:30 - Adapting to Industry Shifts

43:45 - Finding Joy & Fulfillment in Leadership

44:58 - Final Thoughts & Future Outlook

Quotes:

1. “Culture created our momentum—and momentum created our growth.” — John Bennett

2. “We celebrate care. On the front of the shirt: our company. On the back? ‘We do important work.’” — John Bennett

3. “You either need great people or great processes. If you’re a control freak like me, you’d better build the latter.” — John Bennett

4. “Acquiring an agency is like buying a house—you don’t see the leaky basement until after closing.” — John Bennett

5. “Metrics won’t matter if people hate working for you.” — David Knack

Resources:

1. John Bennett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbennett88/

2. DLEM Holdings on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dlem-holdings/

3. DLEM Holdings on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556161327165

4. Connect with David Knack on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-knack/

5. Connect with Zingage on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/zingage/

6. Powered by Zingage: https://zingage.com/

7. Watch Episode on Zingage’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Zingage