Mike Isaac is a music writer and technology correspondent for The New York Times. He joins us from sunny San Francisco to discuss his recent story on the Deftones, their resurgence, and what it was like to kick it with the band as they dug through crates of vinyl at Atomic Records in Burbank, Calif. We also dive into the idea of digital streaming platforms as tech companies, exploring how Spotify and Bandcamp are the same, but wildly different. We dive into The Armed's ferocious new album, THE FUTURE IS HERE AND EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED, and why this particular moment feels primed for music that lashes back against corruption and the endless flood of toxic social media slop. Finally, we get into Mike's rollercoaster of a Top 5 (songs of the moment) with heat from Teen Mortgage, Desire and Johnny Jewel, Wine Lips, The Osees, and Creed....oh yes we did.