Cole and Nathan sit down in Nashville and talk all kinds of stuff. A big thank you to Habitat Ranch for sponsoring the show.

• 3:55 enneagram chat - persuasion & core gift / core sin


• 6:56 different types of wealth


• 7:15 nate's boredom with school, love for the piano


• 11:20 convo about what labor is


• 11:45 currency is consciousness


• 12:45 nate defines manna as the conscious attention of people


• 13:30 OnlyFans & desire


• 14:30 so $$$ isn’t the key to life?


• 16:10 Mark 8v36


• 16:50 what is the soul?


• 17:00 collective soul?


• 17:45 de-velopment of the soul


• 18:20 cole quotes Watchman Nee


• 18:50 nathans bio from his website 


• 19:50 what catapulted nate into this mode he’s in, or has he always been this way


• 20:10 you learn more when you lose


• 21:30 Carl Jung and the shadow, how the ego can be functional but not know what’s beneath the surface


• 22:15 cole quotes this song: https://open.spotify.com/track/18VoO998h6uVlEWgtKzQug?si=4213524c29f64217


• 23:30 how nathan writes a poem every morning & Carl Jung quote about poets


• 24:30 cole quotes Miles Davis, asks nathan where the writing started


• 25:50 how the media manipulates our minds


• 26:30 on playing games you can’t win & thinking how maybe through poetry the soul can speak


• 26:35 where poetry comes from?


• 27:00 on how the soul speaks


• 27:50 how art speaks to the gray areas of life


• 28:25 you can be the tuning fork, but you can’t be the note


• 29:25 cole reflects on trump presidency & what is timeless


• 30:30 what our purpose is NOT & why nate reads the classics


• 31:30 nate advises to burn your TV!


• 31:50 cole asks nate about sacrifice


• 32:50 how sacrifice is the recurring theme through many great world religions


• 33:50 nate mentions Mircea Eliade & Émile Durkheim


• 34:25 the term “appropriation” goes over cole’s head


• 37:20 to eat, must kill, and we forget that


• 39:50 meaning of the star of david


• 40:30 cole wonders about what is a world without sacrifice?


• 41:20 nate on decadence & decay


• 41:50 weak men make hard times


• 43:00 from shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations


• 43:30 the importance of sacrifice