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PMS 2.0 1164 - Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Ryan McGee, Matt Schneidman From Packers Training Camp, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

PMS 2.0 1164 - Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Ryan McGee, Matt Schneidman From Packers Training Camp, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Update: 2024-07-22
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This podcast covers a wide range of sports topics, starting with the excitement of NFL training camp. The hosts discuss Patrick Mahomes' impressive performance, Travis Kelce's continued dominance, and Lamar Jackson's recent illness. They also delve into the drama surrounding Jordan Love's contract negotiations with the Packers and Debo Samuel's trade request from the 49ers. The conversation then shifts to Team USA basketball, with the hosts discussing the roster and their chances in the upcoming Olympics. They highlight LeBron James's leadership and the team's overall strength, but also acknowledge potential challenges from other countries. The podcast also features discussions on F1 racing, specifically the controversy surrounding Lando Norris's team order and the hosts' criticism of F1 as a "showcase league." They also discuss Zander Schauffele's Open Championship win and the unique challenges of playing at the Open Championship course. The hosts also delve into the impact of conference realignment on college sports recruiting, analyzing the advantages and disadvantages of different conferences and how coaches are using the current situation to their advantage. The podcast concludes with a discussion about the NFL Flag Championships, a new initiative aimed at promoting the sport at a younger age. The hosts highlight the event's potential to grow the game globally and provide a safer alternative to tackle football. Throughout the podcast, the hosts share their insights and opinions on various sports topics, providing a lively and engaging discussion for listeners.

Outlines

00:00:00
NFL Training Camp Drama and Player Updates

The podcast kicks off with a discussion about the start of NFL training camp, highlighting Patrick Mahomes' impressive performance in Chiefs practice and Travis Kelce's continued dominance. The hosts also discuss Lamar Jackson's recent illness and John Harbaugh's passionate defense of his quarterback, highlighting the Ravens' potential for success in the upcoming season. They delve into the drama surrounding Jordan Love's contract negotiations with the Packers, with insights from Adam Schefter, who is currently on a road trip across Pennsylvania. The hosts analyze Debo Samuel's trade request and the 49ers' potential response, considering the team's desire to win a Super Bowl and the complexities of the situation. The podcast concludes with a discussion about the Chiefs' potential for a three-peat, acknowledging their talent and the challenges they pose to other teams.

00:47:22
NASCAR and F1: Winning Mentality and Team Orders

The discussion begins with a conversation about NASCAR and F1, focusing on the drivers' desire to win. The hosts highlight Kyle Larson's comeback win and Max Verstappen's dominance, attributing it to his unwavering focus on victory. The conversation shifts to Team USA basketball, with the hosts discussing the roster and their chances in the upcoming Olympics. They highlight LeBron James's leadership and the team's overall strength, but also acknowledge potential challenges from other countries. The hosts express concern about Team USA's defense, questioning whether the players are putting in enough effort. They discuss Steve Kerr's rotation strategies and the need for improvement before the Olympics begin. The hosts break the news of Spencer Dinwiddie signing with the Dallas Mavericks, highlighting his potential impact on the team. They also discuss the Lakers' roster situation and the challenges they face in making significant moves. The hosts discuss LeBron James's influence on Team USA, noting the respect he commands from his teammates. They also analyze the Mavericks' and Lakers' roster strengths and the reasons why Dinwiddie chose Dallas. The hosts clarify the distinction between the WNBA All-Stars and the Olympic team, emphasizing that the All-Stars are not competing in the Olympics. They discuss the Olympic team's roster and their chances of winning gold.

00:56:58
The Toxic Table: Introductions and Sports Analysis

The hosts introduce the Toxic Table, a group of sports analysts, and highlight Bruce's recent appearance on a news program. They discuss his insights on college football and his growing popularity. AJ Hawk joins the Toxic Table and discusses the Green Bay Packers, specifically addressing the potential for a quarterback controversy. He also shares a story about Shephty's struggles to get insulin for his wife due to travel disruptions. The hosts discuss Zander Schauffele's Open Championship win, highlighting his impressive performance and the challenging weather conditions. They also discuss the unique challenges of playing at the Open Championship course. The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding Lando Norris's team order in the recent F1 race, questioning whether it was a genuine race or a scripted event. They criticize F1 as a "showcase league" and express their preference for real racing.

01:07:40
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets: Recent Comments and Conference Realignment

The hosts discuss Aaron Rodgers's recent comments about his absence from some Jets training camp activities. They analyze his perspective and the potential impact on the team, while also addressing Maasiano's criticism of Rodgers's communication. Ryan McGee joins the Toxic Table and discusses the current state of the ACC, highlighting the ongoing lawsuit by Clemson and Florida State. He shares his insights on the conference's future and the potential for further realignment. The hosts discuss the impact of conference realignment on college sports recruiting. They analyze the advantages and disadvantages of different conferences and how coaches are using the current situation to their advantage.

01:24:43
Baseball Home Run Distances and NASCAR Discussion

The hosts discuss the use of Statcast in baseball, specifically regarding home run distances. They question the emphasis on launch angle and exit velocity, arguing for a return to appreciating the traditional concept of home run distance. The hosts discuss Kyle Larson's Brickyard 400 win, highlighting his impressive performance and the controversial ending under caution. They analyze the race's significance and Larson's potential to win both the Indy 500 and the Brickyard 400. The discussion begins with praise for Kyle Larson's recent performance, particularly his win at the Brickyard 400. The speakers note his newfound willingness to engage with the media and his humorous side, a contrast to his previous reserved persona. They also discuss the return of the Brickyard 400 to an oval track after a period of road course races.

01:36:26
Team Orders in Formula 1 and Jordan Love's Contract

The conversation shifts to Formula 1, specifically the Hungarian Grand Prix, where Lando Norris, in the lead, was instructed by his team to let his teammate, Oscar Piastri, take the win. This sparked debate about the ethics of "team orders" in racing, with the speakers expressing mixed opinions on the practice. The focus moves to the Green Bay Packers and the ongoing contract negotiations between quarterback Jordan Love and the team. The speakers discuss the potential impact of Love's agent, David Mulugheta, known for securing lucrative deals for his clients. They also touch on the Packers' defensive changes under new coordinator Jeff Haladay.

01:54:21
The Open Championship and Ethics of Team Orders

The discussion turns to the Open Championship, with the speakers sharing their experiences at the event and their reactions to Zander Schauffele's win. They highlight the challenging conditions and the impressive shot management required to succeed at Royal Trune. The conversation returns to the topic of team orders, this time in the context of golf. The speakers discuss the controversial decision by Zander Schauffele to let Justin Rose miss a gimme putt at the Open Championship, questioning whether it was the right move. They also compare the practice of team orders in golf and racing, highlighting the different dynamics and pressures involved.

02:12:31
John Harbaugh's Defense of Lamar Jackson and Chiefs Dominance

The discussion shifts to the Baltimore Ravens and the relationship between head coach John Harbaugh and quarterback Lamar Jackson. The speakers praise Harbaugh's passionate defense of Jackson, highlighting the importance of a coach's support for their players, especially in the face of criticism. The conversation focuses on the Kansas City Chiefs, discussing their recent dominance and the potential impact of Taylor Swift's relationship with Travis Kelce on the team's popularity. The speakers acknowledge the growing influence of Swift's fanbase on the Chiefs' fan base and the potential for increased viewership.

02:19:43
NFL Flag Championships and Mouthpieces

The discussion concludes with a look at the NFL Flag Championships, a new initiative aimed at promoting the sport at a younger age. The speakers highlight the event's potential to grow the game globally and provide a safer alternative to tackle football. They also discuss the impressive athleticism and skill displayed by the young athletes. The conversation starts with a discussion about mouthpieces, specifically the type that connects to the helmet. The group debates whether mouthpieces actually help prevent concussions, with one member citing a doctor's opinion that there's no evidence to support that claim.

02:26:22
Helmet Weight and Speed and Moss's Media Presence

The discussion shifts to helmet weight and its impact on speed and performance. One member argues that a heavier helmet is better for hitting, while another suggests that a lighter helmet might offer more speed and comfort. The group discusses the frequency of interviews given by a prominent football player, questioning whether he's overexposed and if his constant media presence is necessary.

02:30:00
The Wildness of the World and Looking Forward to Football

The conversation turns to the complexities and rapid changes in the world, particularly with the rise of AI. The group expresses a sense of overwhelm and a desire to focus on the positive aspects of life. The conversation touches on the recent NFL draft and the location of the event in Milwaukee. The group discusses the city's atmosphere and the presence of a prominent figure at the draft. The group expresses excitement for the upcoming football season, both college and professional. They highlight specific players and teams they are looking forward to watching.

02:33:05
Contract Negotiations and Priorities and Big Ten Media Days

The conversation focuses on contract negotiations in the NFL, specifically the importance of prioritizing certain players over others. The group discusses the factors involved in these decisions, including team loyalty and the potential impact of a player's presence on other deals. The group discusses the upcoming Big Ten Media Days in Indianapolis, highlighting specific restaurants and bars they recommend visiting. They also share anecdotes about their experiences in the city.

02:35:25
The Challenges of Fame and Childhood Misadventure

The group discusses the challenges of being in the public eye, particularly the constant demands for interviews and interactions. They share anecdotes about their experiences with fans and the difficulty of navigating these situations. One member shares a story about a childhood experience where he was caught selling cigarettes in school. He describes the consequences of his actions and the lessons he learned from the experience.

02:38:08
A Night in Broad Ripple and Gas Station Bathroom Break

One member recounts a night where he was walking home in Broad Ripple and felt like he was in a deserted, post-apocalyptic world. He describes the unsettling experience and the events that led to his arrest. The conversation shifts to a recent road trip and a memorable bathroom break at a Valero gas station in Pennsylvania. The group discusses the unusual nature of the stop and the challenges of traveling during a busy time.

02:41:33
Software Updates and Braun Strowman at Packers Practice

The group discusses the recent software update that caused widespread disruptions and inconveniences. They express frustration and concern about the impact of these updates on everyday life. The conversation turns to a video of Braun Strowman participating in a Green Bay Packers practice. The group expresses excitement and admiration for Strowman's size and strength.

02:44:29
Otis's WWE Match and Otis's Influence on Love Deal

The group discusses an upcoming WWE match featuring Otis, expressing concern about his opponent and hoping for a successful outcome. They also speculate about the potential impact of Otis's presence on other events. The group speculates about the potential influence of Otis's presence on the Green Bay Packers' negotiations with quarterback Jordan Love. They imagine a scenario where Otis's positive energy and enthusiasm help to facilitate a successful deal.

Keywords

Patrick Mahomes


Patrick Mahomes is an American professional football quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. He is widely considered one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, known for his exceptional arm talent, playmaking ability, and leadership.

Travis Kelce


Travis Kelce is an American professional football tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs. He is widely regarded as one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history, known for his exceptional receiving skills, blocking ability, and leadership.

Lamar Jackson


Lamar Jackson is an American professional football quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens. He is known for his dynamic playmaking ability, both as a passer and a runner, and was awarded the NFL MVP award in 2019.

Jordan Love


Jordan Love is an American professional football quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. He was drafted by the Packers in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft and is expected to be the team's starting quarterback in the upcoming season.

Debo Samuel


Debo Samuel is an American professional football wide receiver for the San Francisco 49ers. He is known for his versatility, ability to run the ball, and explosive playmaking ability.

NFL Training Camp


NFL Training Camp is the period of time when NFL teams prepare for the upcoming season. It typically involves practices, scrimmages, and other activities designed to improve player fitness, develop team chemistry, and refine game strategies.

Super Bowl


The Super Bowl is the championship game of the National Football League (NFL). It is the culmination of the NFL season and is considered the most prestigious and watched sporting event in the United States.

Trade Request


A trade request is a formal request by a player to be traded to a different team. This can be motivated by various factors, such as a desire for a larger role, a better contract, or a change of scenery.

Contract Negotiations


Contract negotiations are the process of discussing and agreeing upon the terms of a contract between a player and a team. This typically involves salary, contract length, and other benefits.

Q&A

  • What are some of the key storylines emerging from NFL training camp?

    The podcast highlights several key storylines, including Patrick Mahomes' continued dominance, Lamar Jackson's recent illness, Jordan Love's contract holdout with the Packers, and Debo Samuel's trade request from the 49ers.

  • What are the chances of the Kansas City Chiefs winning a three-peat?

    The hosts believe the Chiefs have a strong chance of winning a three-peat, citing their talent, coaching, and the potential for a dominant offense.

  • How do you think the Jordan Love contract situation will be resolved?

    The hosts believe the Packers and Jordan Love will reach a deal, likely making him one of the highest-paid quarterbacks in NFL history.

  • What are the 49ers' plans for Debo Samuel?

    The hosts believe the 49ers will try to keep Debo Samuel, potentially working out a long-term deal with him.

  • What are your thoughts on the current state of F1 racing?

    The hosts believe F1 racing is more of a spectacle and a showcase of cars than a true competition, comparing it to a gimmick show.

  • What makes Max Verstappen so successful in F1?

    Verstappen's unwavering focus on winning and his ability to push himself and his team to the limit are key factors in his success.

  • What are the biggest challenges facing Team USA basketball in the upcoming Olympics?

    The team faces potential challenges from other countries, particularly Canada and France, who have strong basketball programs.

  • How will Spencer Dinwiddie's arrival impact the Dallas Mavericks?

    Dinwiddie's versatility and ability to play multiple roles will provide the Mavericks with valuable depth and scoring options.

  • What is the future of the ACC in the face of conference realignment?

    The ACC faces an uncertain future as teams like Clemson and Florida State seek to leave the conference. The conference's ability to retain its top programs and maintain its competitive edge is in question.

  • Why is there a growing debate about the use of Statcast in baseball?

    Some argue that Statcast's emphasis on launch angle and exit velocity detracts from the traditional appreciation of home run distance and the excitement of seeing a ball hit out of the park.

Show Notes

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about an incredible sports weekend that included Xander Schauffele winning the Open Championship at Royal Troon for his 2nd major of the year, the NFL Flag Football Championships, Jordan Love not practicing with the Packers until he gets a new deal, the F1 race in Hungary and the fallout from it, more teams reporting for NFL training camps, and everything else happening around the sports world. Joining the progrum to chat about the Jordan Love deal, if a Tua deal is imminent, Anthony Richardson’s injury status, and if this is the best Chiefs team of the Mahomes era, is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, NBA Insider for Stadium and The Athletic, Shams Charania joins the show to chat about the US Men’s National Team squeaking out a win over South Sudan, and if this team is going to figure it out before the start of the Olympics. In the 2nd hour, ESPN journalist and co-host of Marty & McGee, Ryan McGee joins the progrum to chat about ACC media days and what he sees coming for the future of the conference, his thoughts on Kyle Larson winning at the Brickyard and why what happened this weekend in F1 drives him nuts. Later, Green Bay Packers beat reporter for the Athletic, Matt Schneidman joins the show to chat about the vibes around Green Bay with Jordan Love not practicing until he gets a new deal, why no one in Green Bay seems worried, the expectations for the Packers this year, and his thoughts on The Open Championship after being boots on the ground there. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.

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PMS 2.0 1164 - Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Ryan McGee, Matt Schneidman From Packers Training Camp, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

PMS 2.0 1164 - Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Ryan McGee, Matt Schneidman From Packers Training Camp, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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