PMS 2.0 1182 - NFL Preseason Week 3 Preview, Matt Barrie, Vince Vaughn, & AJ Hawk
Digest
This podcast delves into the world of sports, covering a wide range of topics from the NFL preseason to college football and even golf. The hosts discuss the excitement surrounding the upcoming NFL season, particularly the preseason games and the performance of rookie quarterbacks like Drake May. They also explore the growing importance of joint practices, analyzing their benefits and drawbacks. The podcast features an interview with actor Vince Vaughn, who discusses his return to television with the Apple TV series "Bad Monkey," his experience as a Notre Dame football player, and his thoughts on the future of college football. The hosts also discuss the allure of prestige TV and the changing landscape of the entertainment industry. The podcast also delves into the importance of local commentary crews in the NFL, highlighting the unique personalities and perspectives they bring to the game. They pay tribute to Myron Cope, a legendary Pittsburgh Steelers commentator, and his lasting impact on the city. The hosts discuss the importance of passion and exaggeration in sports commentary, using Cope as an example. The podcast concludes with a discussion about the evolution of football, the impact of analytics, and the importance of youth football. The hosts also discuss the impact of NIL and the transfer portal on college football, acknowledging the benefits of players getting paid but emphasizing the need to preserve the unique aspects of the sport.
Outlines
Preseason Football and Drake May's Performance
The podcast begins with a discussion about the excitement surrounding the upcoming NFL season, particularly the preseason games. The hosts highlight the New England Patriots' preseason game against the Philadelphia Eagles, focusing on rookie quarterback Drake May's performance.
Team Buy-In and the Shift Towards Joint Practices
The hosts discuss the overall buy-in from teams during preseason games, noting a difference in intensity compared to previous years. They attribute this to younger rosters and players with more to prove. They also discuss the potential shift away from traditional preseason games towards more emphasis on joint practices.
Vince Vaughn Interview and Justin Simmons Signing
The hosts preview an upcoming interview with actor Vince Vaughn, who has a new TV series on Apple TV. They also discuss the news of Justin Simmons signing with the Atlanta Falcons, a surprising move given his long free agency.
Atlanta Falcons' Offseason Moves and Judeon's Future
The hosts analyze the Atlanta Falcons' recent moves, including the signing of Justin Simmons and the potential trade for Judeon. They discuss the team's strategy and whether these moves are for the present or the future.
Patriots' Decision to Move On from Judeon
The hosts delve into the New England Patriots' decision to trade Judeon, exploring the potential reasons behind the move. They discuss the team's new regime and the need to establish a new identity.
Keon White's Breakout Performance and Draft Night Expectations
The hosts highlight the impressive performance of Keon White, a second-year player for the Patriots. They discuss the importance of draft picks fulfilling their potential in later years and how White is a perfect example of this.
Drake May's Continued Success and Jalen Polk's Potential
The hosts continue to praise Drake May's performance in the preseason game, highlighting his pocket presence, throwing accuracy, and surprising speed. They also discuss the potential impact of Jalen Polk, another rookie for the Patriots.
The Future of Preseason Games and Joint Practices (Continued)
The hosts discuss the potential shift away from traditional preseason games towards more emphasis on joint practices. They reference a conversation with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who expressed his own dislike for preseason games.
The Rise of Joint Practices and Potential Concerns
The hosts delve deeper into the potential benefits and drawbacks of joint practices. They discuss the NFL's memo regarding the importance of these practices and the recent fines levied on teams for fights during joint practices.
Chiefs' Approach to Preseason Games and Joint Practices
The hosts discuss the Chiefs' approach to preseason games, particularly the decision to play their starters for an extended period. They compare this to the Lions' strategy and the potential benefits of playing against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs' offense.
The Future of Preseason Games and Joint Practices (Continued)
The hosts continue their discussion about the future of preseason games and joint practices, speculating on the potential for joint practices to become more prominent and even televised. They discuss the potential for teams to sell the rights to these practices and the growing importance of these events.
The Value of One-on-One Drills in Joint Practices
The hosts discuss the value of one-on-one drills in joint practices, highlighting the competitive nature of these drills and the potential for showcasing hidden talent. They also discuss the potential for these drills to be televised and the challenges of accurately assessing performance in these situations.
The Importance of Context and Transparency in Joint Practices
The hosts discuss the importance of providing context and transparency when covering joint practices, particularly regarding the specific drills and strategies being employed by players. They emphasize the need to avoid misinterpreting individual performances in these situations.
The Importance of Understanding the Purpose of Training Camp
The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding the purpose of training camp, which is not just about making the team but also about individual development and experimentation. They discuss the need for players, coaches, and fans to recognize the value of these practices.
Renewed Excitement for Preseason Games
The hosts express their renewed excitement for preseason games, noting a shift in their perception of these events. They attribute this to the Olympics and the overall competitive spirit that it fostered.
Preseason Games to Watch This Weekend
The hosts provide a preview of the key preseason games to watch this weekend, highlighting the players and teams to keep an eye on. They discuss the potential for starters to play and the overall storylines to follow.
PGA Playoffs and Matthew Berry's Insights
The hosts discuss the start of the PGA Playoffs and preview an upcoming interview with Matthew Berry, a golf enthusiast and analyst. They discuss the format of the playoffs and the potential for upsets.
PGA Playoffs and Scottie Scheffler's Perspective
The hosts continue their discussion about the PGA Playoffs, focusing on Scottie Scheffler's perspective on the format. They discuss the FedEx Cup points system and the potential for a winner-take-all scenario at the end of the season.
Predictions for the PGA Playoffs and Potential Upsets
The hosts make predictions for the PGA Playoffs, highlighting players to watch and potential upsets. They discuss the importance of top players staying within the threshold for the final weekend before college football.
A Smackdown Cup for Golf
The hosts propose a new format for the PGA Playoffs, a "Smackdown Cup" that would feature a match play format between the top 10 players on the PGA Tour. They discuss the potential for this format to create a more exciting and competitive finale.
Farewell and Looking Ahead to Week Zero
The hosts wrap up the podcast, thanking Matthew Berry for his insights and looking ahead to Week Zero of the college football season. They discuss their upcoming trip to Ireland for a game and the excitement surrounding the start of the season.
Local Commentary Crews and Myron Cope's Legacy
The hosts discuss the importance of local commentary crews in the NFL, highlighting the unique personalities and perspectives they bring to the game. They pay tribute to Myron Cope, a legendary Pittsburgh Steelers commentator, and his lasting impact on the city.
The Importance of Passion and Exaggeration in Commentary
The hosts discuss the importance of passion and exaggeration in sports commentary, using Myron Cope as an example. They highlight the importance of injecting humor and personality into the game and the need to avoid overly sterile or technical descriptions.
Spotlighting Local Commentary Crews and Myron Cope's Influence
The hosts encourage listeners to share any examples of exceptional local commentary they encounter during the preseason. They discuss the lasting influence of Myron Cope on their own personalities and the importance of his legacy.
The Power of Football and Local Commentary
The discussion starts with the impact of football on a city, particularly in Pittsburgh, where it unifies people. The importance of local commentary crews is highlighted, emphasizing their ability to connect with fans through their knowledge and passion.
The Decline of Local Radio Calls
The conversation shifts to the decline of local radio calls during games, with the rise of national broadcasts and streaming services. The speakers lament the loss of this unique connection between fans and local commentators.
The Importance of Passion and Exaggeration in Sports Commentary
The speakers discuss the importance of passion and exaggeration in sports commentary, arguing that it enhances the entertainment value and makes the experience more engaging. They reference the legendary Myron Cope as an example of this style.
The Behind-the-Scenes Reality of TV Production
The conversation delves into the behind-the-scenes reality of TV production, revealing that many on-air personalities are simply reading scripts written by off-camera producers. This leads to a discussion about the value of the entire team involved in creating a show.
The Skill of Teleprompter Reading
The speakers discuss the skill of teleprompter reading, acknowledging it as a talent in itself. They share their own experiences with teleprompters and how they perceive the practice in different contexts.
The Evolution of Sports Commentary
The conversation touches on the evolution of sports commentary, noting how it has become more news-oriented. They discuss the importance of local commentators who are deeply connected to their teams and communities.
The Impact of Technology on Sports Consumption
The speakers reflect on the impact of technology on sports consumption, acknowledging that younger generations may not have the same appreciation for traditional radio broadcasts. They express concern about the potential loss of certain aspects of the sports experience.
The Atlanta Falcons' Aggressive Offseason Moves
The discussion shifts to the Atlanta Falcons' aggressive offseason moves, particularly their investment in the quarterback position and their additions to the defense. The speakers analyze the team's strategy and potential for success.
Post Malone's Country Album and Musical Genre Blending
The conversation turns to Post Malone's new country album, discussing the potential risks and rewards of genre blending. They also touch on Taylor Swift's career trajectory and her resilience in the face of adversity.
Drake May's Performance in the Preseason Game
The speakers analyze Drake May's performance in the preseason game, highlighting his poise in the pocket and his ability to make throws under pressure. They discuss his potential as an NFL quarterback.
The Importance of Passion and the Patriots' Fan Base
The conversation focuses on the importance of passion in sports and the dedication of Patriots fans. They discuss the challenges of being a Patriots fan, including the long travel distances and the unpredictable weather conditions.
Kennywood's Ticket Price Reduction and the University of Pittsburgh Football Team
The speakers discuss Kennywood's decision to lower ticket prices and the University of Pittsburgh football team's recent visit to the amusement park. They express their opinions on the team's prospects for the upcoming season.
West Virginia Football's Silent Disco Team Outing
The conversation shifts to West Virginia football's unique team outing, a silent disco. They discuss the benefits of this unconventional approach to team bonding and its potential impact on the team's culture.
The Seattle Seahawks' Rookie Show and Team Culture
The speakers discuss the Seattle Seahawks' rookie show, where players showcased their talents, including freestyle rapping. They analyze the team's culture and its emphasis on fun and camaraderie.
Vince Vaughn's Return to Television with "Bad Monkey"
The conversation turns to Vince Vaughn's return to television with the Apple TV series "Bad Monkey." They discuss the show's premise, Vaughn's decision to take on this project, and his thoughts on the current state of the entertainment industry.
Vince Vaughn's Notre Dame Football Experience and College Football's Future
The speakers discuss Vince Vaughn's experience as a Notre Dame football player and his thoughts on the future of college football. They touch on the recent merger of the Big 10 and Pac-12 conferences and its potential impact on the sport.
The Allure of Prestige TV and the Evolution of Vince Vaughn's Career
The conversation explores the allure of prestige TV for actors like Vince Vaughn and how it compares to traditional movie roles. They discuss the changing landscape of the entertainment industry and the growing popularity of streaming services.
Vince Vaughn's Improv Background and the Importance of Team Sports
The speakers discuss Vince Vaughn's improv background and his preference for film over stand-up comedy. They also touch on the importance of team sports in developing life skills and fostering a sense of camaraderie.
Vince Vaughn's Improv Style and the Reality of Scripting
The conversation delves into Vince Vaughn's improv style and the extent to which he incorporates improvisation into his work. They discuss the balance between scripting and spontaneity in comedy and the collaborative nature of the process.
Vince Vaughn's Approach to Learning Lines and the Dynamics of Movie Sets
The speakers discuss Vince Vaughn's approach to learning lines and the dynamics of movie sets. They touch on the importance of preparation, the collaborative nature of filmmaking, and the challenges of working with different personalities.
The Value of Team Sports and Life Lessons
The conversation concludes with a discussion about the value of team sports and the life lessons they teach. They emphasize the importance of teamwork, resilience, and the ability to deal with different personalities.
The Evolution of Football and its Impact on the Game
The conversation begins with a discussion about the evolution of football, particularly the increasing focus on offense and the use of analytics. The speakers discuss how these changes are impacting the game, both positively and negatively.
The Importance of Youth Football and Learning Life Lessons
The speakers delve into the importance of youth football and the life lessons it teaches, such as resilience, teamwork, and learning how to lose. They express concern about the potential loss of these lessons if the focus solely shifts to scoring.
The Unspoken X-Factor: Team Chemistry and Camaraderie
The conversation shifts to the importance of team chemistry and camaraderie, arguing that it's a crucial factor in a team's success. They highlight how teams that play for each other, rather than just alongside each other, often outperform those with individual talent alone.
Balancing College Football's Uniqueness with NIL and the Transfer Portal
The speakers discuss the impact of NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) and the transfer portal on college football. They acknowledge the benefits of players getting paid but emphasize the need to preserve the unique aspects of college football, such as the rivalry and camaraderie between players from the same state.
Vince Vaughn's Comedy Classics and the Art of Improvisation
The conversation turns to Vince Vaughn's iconic comedy films, particularly "Wedding Crashers," "Dodgeball," and "Old School." The speakers discuss the collaborative nature of filmmaking and the challenges of keeping a straight face during scenes with talented comedic actors.
The Potential for a "Dodgeball" Sequel and the Importance of a Strong Story
The speakers discuss the possibility of a "Dodgeball" sequel and Vince Vaughn's approach to sequels. He emphasizes the importance of having a new story to tell, rather than simply rehashing the original film.
Feel Good Friday with PMS: Stats and Stories from Life
The conversation shifts to a segment called "Feel Good Friday with PMS," where the speakers answer questions from viewers on X (formerly Twitter). The first question asks what stat from their lives they would like to know, leading to a discussion about the impact of alcohol, food, and nicotine consumption.
College Football Predictions and Intriguing Teams to Watch
The speakers discuss their predictions for the upcoming college football season, highlighting teams they are excited to watch, such as Texas, Oregon, Nebraska, and Alabama. They also discuss the challenges faced by teams like Notre Dame and the potential for upsets.
Fear Factor Challenge: Balls or Limousine?
The speakers tackle a question from a viewer about which "Fear Factor" challenge they would choose: eating 17 bowls of testicles or walking across a limousine suspended a thousand feet in the air. They discuss their personal fears and the absurdity of the challenges.
The Evolution of Daredevils and Society's Influence
The conversation concludes with a reflection on the evolution of daredevils and society's influence on their stunts. They discuss the risks involved in these acts and how society's desire for entertainment has led to changes in safety regulations.
Kennywood and Dare Devil Stunts
The conversation starts with a discussion about Kennywood, a popular amusement park in Pittsburgh, and the possibility of incorporating daredevil stunts into the park. The group wonders why such stunts haven't been implemented yet, considering the availability of stunt sets and studios.
Pittsburgh's Hidden Gems
The conversation shifts to a video about Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, featuring a daredevil stunt gone wrong. The group discusses the unexpected nature of the video and how it reflects the city's hidden gems and unexpected events.
Ideal Flag Football Roster for LA 2028 Olympics
The group discusses the ideal flag football roster for the LA 2028 Olympics, emphasizing the importance of speed and agility. They highlight the key skill of being able to drop one's hips while sprinting, which is crucial for evading defenders.
The A7FL: A New Kind of Football
The group delves into the A7FL, a seven-on-seven adult football league with full tackling but no pads. They discuss the physicality of the league and the surprising lack of fights despite the intense hits.
Semi-Pro Football and the West Virginia Rough Riders
The conversation explores the semi-pro football league and the West Virginia Rough Riders, a team that some of the group's old teammates played for. They discuss the high level of skill among the players and the surprising intensity of the league.
Favorite Things of the Week
The group shares their favorite things from the week, ranging from Oreo sticks to the new Post Malone country album. They also discuss the budding rivalry between D-Bone and Gumpy over music tastes.
Gumpy's Food Aversion and D-Bone's Music Takes
The group continues to discuss D-Bone's music takes and Gumpy's aversion to certain foods, particularly cheese on pretzels. They highlight D-Bone's graphic design skills and his unique perspective on food and music.
Post Malone's Country Album and D-Bone's Takes
The group debates D-Bone's claim that Post Malone's new country album is the album of the year. They discuss the album's release at midnight and the potential for bias in D-Bone's opinion due to previous arguments.
Gumpy's Fashion and the State Fair
The conversation shifts to Gumpy's fashion choices, particularly his shoes and his recent trip to the state fair. They discuss the cultural differences between Gumpy, the youngest member of the group, and the rest of the office.
Bill Belichick's Media Playbook and Albert Huggins' Rampage
The group discusses Bill Belichick's decision to avoid answering certain questions during a press conference. They also share their favorite moments from the week, including Albert Huggins knocking over a ram staffer.
Dan Orlovsky's Football Expertise and CM Punk's Interview
The group expresses their admiration for Dan Orlovsky's football expertise and discusses the recent CM Punk interview. They also highlight the challenges of producing live content without playback videos.
Tony Diggs' New Role and College Football Guide
The group discusses Tony Diggs' new role and his college football guide, "The Need to Know Gombler's Guide." They offer a giveaway for listeners who repost the guide on social media.
Keywords
Preseason Football
The period of games played before the regular season in the NFL, used to evaluate players, experiment with strategies, and prepare for the upcoming season.
Joint Practices
Training sessions where two teams practice together, allowing for more intense competition and a chance to evaluate players against different opponents.
Drake May
A rookie quarterback for the New England Patriots, known for his pocket presence, throwing accuracy, and surprising speed.
Keon White
A second-year player for the New England Patriots, who has shown significant improvement and potential as a defensive player.
Myron Cope
A legendary Pittsburgh Steelers commentator, known for his unique style, passion, and humor. He created the "Terrible Towel," a symbol of Pittsburgh sports fandom.
Local Commentary Crews
The teams of commentators who provide local coverage of sports events, often bringing a unique perspective and connection to the community.
FedEx Cup Playoffs
The postseason tournament in professional golf, where the top players compete for the FedEx Cup championship. The format involves a series of tournaments with a points system, culminating in a winner-take-all final event.
Scottie Scheffler
A professional golfer who has been the top player on tour, but has not won the FedEx Cup in the last two years. He has expressed frustration with the format of the playoffs.
Vince Vaughn
An actor known for his comedic roles in films like "Wedding Crashers," "Dodgeball," and "Old School." He has recently returned to television with the Apple TV series "Bad Monkey."
Prestige TV
High-quality television shows that are often produced by streaming services or cable networks. They typically feature complex storylines, strong characters, and high production values.
Q&A
What are some of the key storylines to watch for in the upcoming NFL preseason games?
The performance of rookie quarterbacks like Drake May and Jalen Polk, the impact of new regimes on teams like the Patriots and Falcons, and the growing importance of joint practices are all key storylines to follow.
What are the potential benefits and drawbacks of joint practices?
Joint practices offer more intense competition and a chance to evaluate players against different opponents. However, they also carry the risk of injuries and fights, as seen in recent events.
How does the FedEx Cup Playoffs format work, and what are some of the criticisms of it?
The FedEx Cup Playoffs involve a series of tournaments with a points system, culminating in a winner-take-all final event. Some players, like Scottie Scheffler, have criticized the format for being too heavily weighted towards the final event and not reflecting the entire season's performance.
What is the significance of local commentary crews in the NFL, and what is Myron Cope's legacy?
Local commentary crews bring a unique perspective and connection to the community, often becoming beloved figures among fans. Myron Cope, a legendary Pittsburgh Steelers commentator, is a prime example of this, known for his passion, humor, and lasting impact on the city.
What are the benefits of local sports commentary, and why is it important to preserve this tradition?
Local commentators provide a unique connection between fans and their teams, offering insightful analysis and passionate calls that resonate with the community. They often have a deep understanding of the team's history, players, and rivalries, which enhances the viewing experience.
How has technology changed the way people consume sports, and what are the potential downsides of these changes?
Technology has made it easier than ever to access sports content, with streaming services and national broadcasts becoming increasingly popular. However, this has led to a decline in local radio calls and a potential loss of the unique connection between fans and local commentators.
What are Vince Vaughn's thoughts on the current state of the entertainment industry, and how does he approach his own work?
Vince Vaughn believes that the entertainment industry has become overly cautious, with a focus on safety and avoiding controversy. He advocates for a return to a more creative and spontaneous approach, where artists are given more freedom to express themselves. He incorporates improvisation into his work, but he also recognizes the importance of scripting and collaboration.
What are the benefits of playing team sports, and how do these skills translate to other areas of life?
Team sports teach valuable life lessons, including teamwork, resilience, the ability to deal with different personalities, and the importance of prioritizing goals. These skills are transferable to other areas of life, such as the workplace, relationships, and personal growth.
How has the evolution of football, particularly the focus on offense and analytics, impacted the game?
The increasing focus on offense has led to more scoring and a faster pace of play, but some argue it has diminished the importance of defense and the physicality of the game. Analytics have provided valuable insights but can also lead to over-reliance on data and a loss of instinctual play.
Show Notes
On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat last night’s Patriots vs. Eagles game and how Drake Maye looked in extended action, the general feeling around the Patriots heading into the season, before taking a look at this weekend’s preseason slate, which teams are playing starters, and finally recapping the week and answering some questions from around the internet. Joining the progrum in the first hour to preview the beginning of the FedEx Cup Championship and what to expect from the finale of the golf season is ESPN PGA analyst and SportsCenter anchor, Matt Barrie. Later, in the 2nd hour, actor, producer, and comedic legend, Vince Vaughn joins the progrum to chat about his new show on AppleTV+ Bad Monkey, his career as a whole and how the industry has changed throughout the course of it, his love for college football and sports as a whole, and why he thinks playing organized sports is so important growing up and how it’s similar to a film set, and much more in an incredible conversation. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Monday. Cheers.
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