PMS 2.0 1185 - Rich Eisen, Oklahoma State Head Coach Mike Gundy, Mike Florio, & AJ Hawk
Digest
This episode of the Pat McAfee Show features a lively discussion about the upcoming football season, with insights from Pat McAfee, Rich Eisen, and Coach Mike Gundy. The show kicks off with a pre-show chat about the upcoming NFL league meeting and potential changes to the kickoff rule. Pat McAfee and Tone Diggs then delve into the upcoming college football season, highlighting the first-ever international broadcast of College GameDay and previewing the Georgia Tech vs. Florida State game. Rich Eisen, the first-ever employee of NFL Network, joins the show live, and they discuss the NFL's growing international presence and the league's potential for future growth. The conversation then shifts to the recent controversy surrounding a video of Rich Eisen running a 40-yard dash at Fanatics Fest, with both Eisen and McAfee clarifying their sides of the story. The show continues with a discussion about the evolution of football coverage, the challenges and rewards of hosting a daily show year-round, and the importance of offseason coverage. Rich Eisen explains why he's been advised by the "universe" to avoid talking about Caitlin Clark, acknowledging her remarkable achievements but expressing his concern about potentially offending anyone. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen then discuss the Michigan football team's performance last season, particularly their run to the Rose Bowl, and the upcoming documentary about Connor Stallions and the sign-stealing controversy surrounding the team. The conversation then shifts to the sign-stealing controversy from the perspective of the NCAA and the impact of the accusations on the Michigan football team. They also discuss the importance of fair play and the role of the NCAA in ensuring a level playing field. The show then transitions to the format and production of College GameDay, highlighting the show's popularity and its unique blend of entertainment and analysis. Rich Eisen welcomes Greeny to the College GameDay team and shares his thoughts on the show's future. The episode concludes with a conversation with Coach Mike Gundy, the reigning Big 12 Coach of the Year from Oklahoma State. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss Gundy's iconic mullet, his coaching philosophy, and the upcoming college football season. They explore the implications of Gundy's recent quote about not wanting to talk to agents in the context of the evolving landscape of college football and the role of NIL deals. Gundy shares his perspective on the current state of college football and the impact of NIL deals, discussing the challenges of negotiating with players who are accustomed to making money and the potential for a shift towards a more contractual relationship between players and schools. The conversation then turns to the importance of player compensation in college football, the need for contracts in the sport, and the potential for college football teams to break away from the NCAA and form their own company. Gundy explains the QR code initiative that Oklahoma State has implemented to facilitate NIL deals for its players, describing the inspiration behind the initiative and its potential to connect fans with players directly. The episode concludes with a discussion about the upcoming season opener against South Dakota State, the Big 12 Conference, and the importance of calling it like it is and the value of authentic conversations.
Outlines
Introduction and Pre-Show Chat
The show kicks off with introductions and a lively discussion about the upcoming football season. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen are both live on different platforms, marking a unique event. They also discuss the upcoming NFL league meeting and potential changes to the kickoff rule.
College Football Season Preview and Rich Eisen Joins the Show
Pat McAfee and Tone Diggs delve into the upcoming college football season, highlighting the first-ever international broadcast of College GameDay and previewing the Georgia Tech vs. Florida State game. They discuss the strengths and weaknesses of both teams, particularly focusing on the quarterbacks and offensive strategies. Rich Eisen, the first-ever employee of NFL Network, joins the show live. Pat McAfee expresses his gratitude for Eisen's support and welcomes him back to ESPN. They discuss the upcoming NFL season and the league's growing international presence.
The "Dusted" Controversy and The 40-Yard Dash and Shafter's Challenge
Rich Eisen addresses the recent controversy surrounding a video of him running a 40-yard dash at Fanatics Fest. He clarifies the context of the video and defends his performance, emphasizing the importance of having fun and supporting charity. Pat McAfee explains his side of the story regarding the 40-yard dash at Fanatics Fest. He describes the playful nature of the challenge and the humorous outcome, highlighting the camaraderie between him and Shafter.
The NFL's Growth and Future and International Expansion of the NFL
Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss the NFL's current state and its potential for future growth. They analyze the league's increasing popularity, high valuations, and expansion into international markets. Rich Eisen shares his insights on the NFL's international expansion strategy. He highlights the league's commitment to growing the game globally, citing the upcoming games in London, Munich, and Brazil.
The Evolution of Football Coverage and Break and Return
Rich Eisen reflects on the evolution of football coverage, comparing the early days of NFL Network to the current landscape. He discusses the increased demand for football content year-round and the growth of shows like NFL Live and Hard Knocks. Rich Eisen takes a break for a radio segment, and the show transitions to the Roku Channel audience. He returns shortly after and the show resumes its live simulcast.
Melkhyper and the Pat McAfee Show and Rich Eisen's Daily Show and Offseason Coverage
Pat McAfee discusses his impersonation of Melkhyper and the potential for a future appearance on his show. He shares his admiration for Melkhyper and recounts some of his favorite moments from the show. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss the challenges and rewards of hosting a daily show year-round. They reflect on the importance of offseason coverage and the role of events like the Olympics in keeping fans engaged.
Caitlin Clark and the Universe's Message and Michigan Football and the Rose Bowl
Rich Eisen explains why he's been advised by the "universe" to avoid talking about Caitlin Clark. He acknowledges her remarkable achievements but expresses his concern about his ability to speak about her without potentially offending anyone. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss the Michigan football team's performance last season, particularly their run to the Rose Bowl. They highlight the team's resilience in the face of adversity and their ability to overcome challenges.
Connor Stallions and the Sign-Stealing Controversy and College GameDay and the Sign-Stealing Controversy
Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss the upcoming documentary about Connor Stallions and the sign-stealing controversy surrounding the Michigan football team. They debate the validity of the accusations and the impact of Stallions' actions on the team's success. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss the sign-stealing controversy from the perspective of the NCAA and the impact of the accusations on the Michigan football team. They also discuss the importance of fair play and the role of the NCAA in ensuring a level playing field.
College GameDay and the Show's Format and Greeny's New Role on College GameDay
Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss the format and production of College GameDay, highlighting the show's popularity and its unique blend of entertainment and analysis. They also discuss the show's early morning start time and the dedication of the crew. Rich Eisen welcomes Greeny to the College GameDay team and shares his thoughts on the show's future. He expresses his confidence in Greeny's ability to contribute to the show's success and his excitement for the upcoming season.
Closing Remarks and Thanks and Coach Mike Gundy Joins the Show
Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen express their gratitude to Rich Eisen for joining the show and their appreciation for the unique experience of the simulcast. They acknowledge the challenges and successes of the show and look forward to future collaborations. Coach Mike Gundy, the reigning Big 12 Coach of the Year from Oklahoma State, joins the show. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss Gundy's iconic mullet, his coaching philosophy, and the upcoming college football season.
The Mullet's Return and The Impact of the "I Don't Want to Talk to Agents" Quote
Coach Mike Gundy reveals that he has cut his mullet but plans to grow it back. He discusses the cultural significance of the mullet and its popularity among his players. Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen discuss Coach Mike Gundy's recent quote about not wanting to talk to agents. They explore the implications of this statement in the context of the evolving landscape of college football and the role of NIL deals.
The Future of College Football and NIL Deals and The Importance of Player Compensation
Coach Mike Gundy shares his perspective on the current state of college football and the impact of NIL deals. He discusses the challenges of negotiating with players who are accustomed to making money and the potential for a shift towards a more contractual relationship between players and schools. Pat McAfee and Coach Mike Gundy discuss the importance of player compensation in college football. They reflect on the financial benefits that players bring to their schools and the need for a fair and equitable system of compensation.
The Need for Contracts in College Football and The Future of the NCAA and College Football
Coach Mike Gundy emphasizes the need for contracts in college football, arguing that the current system of NIL deals is unsustainable and creates uncertainty for both players and schools. He believes that contracts will provide clarity and structure to the relationship between players and schools. Coach Mike Gundy discusses the potential for college football teams to break away from the NCAA and form their own company. He acknowledges the challenges and opportunities presented by this potential shift and the need for a collaborative approach to address the evolving landscape of college athletics.
Ollie Gordon and His Impact on Oklahoma State and The QR Code Initiative for NIL Deals
Pat McAfee and Coach Mike Gundy discuss the talent and potential of Ollie Gordon, a running back for Oklahoma State. They highlight Gordon's work ethic, his ability to carry the load, and his magnetic personality. Coach Mike Gundy explains the QR code initiative that Oklahoma State has implemented to facilitate NIL deals for its players. He describes the inspiration behind the initiative and its potential to connect fans with players directly.
The "Big Daddy" of the Mullet Community and The South Dakota State Game and Week One Test
Connor Stallions asks Coach Mike Gundy about the implementation of the QR code initiative and its potential for future expansion. He also jokes about the possibility of Gundy having a QR code on his visor. Pat McAfee and Coach Mike Gundy discuss the upcoming season opener against South Dakota State, a challenging opponent that has won back-to-back FCS national championships. They acknowledge the importance of the game as a test for Oklahoma State and the team's readiness for the season.
The Big 12 Conference and the Upcoming Season and Coach Gundy's Multi-Sport Background
Pat McAfee and Coach Mike Gundy discuss the Big 12 Conference and the upcoming season. They highlight the conference's competitive landscape and the potential for upsets. They also express their support for West Virginia and their coach. Pat McAfee and Coach Mike Gundy discuss their shared multi-sport backgrounds and their experiences in high school and college. They highlight the importance of athleticism and the value of a well-rounded athletic experience.
Closing Remarks and Thanks and College Football and the Mallet
Pat McAfee and Coach Mike Gundy conclude their conversation, expressing their gratitude for the opportunity to chat and their admiration for each other's work. They highlight the importance of calling it like it is and the value of authentic conversations. The conversation starts with a discussion about college football, specifically the upcoming season and the potential for a team to win the Big 12. The discussion then shifts to a player's physical appearance and how he has changed over time.
Myrtle Beach and State Fairs and AJ Hall Joins the Conversation
The conversation turns to Myrtle Beach and the speaker's experience there. They discuss the late-night bars and the overall atmosphere of the city. The conversation then transitions to state fairs and the speaker's fondness for them. AJ Hall, a Super Bowl champion, joins the conversation. The discussion centers around a two-syllable word that one of the speakers is trying to say but can't quite pronounce. The speakers engage in a humorous back-and-forth about the word and its meaning.
Mike Florio's Upcoming Appearance and Hard Knocks and Caleb Williams
The speakers announce that Mike Florio, an NFL insider, will be joining the show in five minutes. They discuss Florio's expertise on the technical side of the NFL and his upcoming book. The conversation shifts to Hard Knocks, a reality show that follows an NFL team during training camp. The speakers discuss Caleb Williams, a young quarterback for the Chicago Bears, and his performance on the show. They analyze his confidence and his ability to handle pressure.
The Chicago Bears' Offense and Kevin Warren and the Chicago Bears' New Stadium
The speakers continue to discuss Caleb Williams and his performance on Hard Knocks. They delve into the technical difficulties he faced during the preseason game, specifically the communication issues with his helmet. The conversation turns to Kevin Warren, the former Big Ten commissioner and current president and CEO of the Chicago Bears. The speakers discuss the design process for the Bears' new stadium, specifically the type of seating they are considering.
Mike Florio Joins the Show and The New Kickoff Rule
Mike Florio joins the show and shares his thoughts on the latest episode of Hard Knocks. He discusses the Bears' efforts to sanitize the show and make it less interesting. He also praises Caleb Williams's performance and compares him to Patrick Mahomes. The conversation shifts to the new kickoff rule in the NFL. Florio discusses the league's plans to potentially change the rule and the concerns of coaches about the impact of the change on the game.
Apple and Sunday Ticket and Brandon Aiyuk's Future
The speakers discuss Apple's acquisition of Sunday Ticket and the high price tag associated with it. They express their concerns about the cost and the potential for a pay-per-view model in the future. The conversation turns to Brandon Aiyuk, a wide receiver for the San Francisco 49ers, and his potential trade to another team. Florio discusses the deadline for a trade and his belief that Aiyuk will likely stay with the 49ers.
Michael Penix Jr.'s Role with the Falcons and Hassan Reddick's Contract Dispute
The speakers discuss Michael Penix Jr., a rookie quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, and his lack of playing time in the preseason. Florio offers potential explanations for this decision, including the team's concern about his performance and their desire to protect him from pressure. The conversation shifts to Hassan Reddick, a defensive end for the New York Jets, and his contract dispute with the team. Florio discusses the leverage Reddick has lost by refusing to show up for the physical and the potential for a trade.
AI and Graphic Design and Movie Discussion and Chris Pratt's Mario Accent
The conversation concludes with a discussion about the use of AI in graphic design. The speakers discuss how AI is being used as a tool by graphic designers to enhance their work and how it is changing the industry. The conversation starts with a discussion about a movie, likely "The Super Mario Bros. Movie," and the impressive way the filmmakers tie everything together. The discussion then shifts to Chris Pratt's portrayal of Mario and the mixed reactions to his accent.
Jim Harbaugh's Enthusiasm for Justin Herbert's Return and College Football's Return and the Long Offseason
The conversation turns to college football, specifically the return of Justin Herbert. The speakers discuss Jim Harbaugh's passionate reaction to Herbert's return, comparing it to a rock concert. The speakers express their excitement for the return of college football, noting how long the offseason has felt. They also discuss the recent 40-yard dash controversy involving Rich Eisen and his reaction to it.
The Gimmick of "Two Thumbs Up" and the Death of Siskel and Ebert and State Fair Rides and Safety Concerns
The conversation delves into the history of film critics Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert, specifically their famous "two thumbs up" rating system. The speakers discuss whether the thumbs-up gimmick was genuine or a showmanship tactic. The speakers discuss their experiences with state fair rides, expressing concerns about safety and the potential for accidents. They share anecdotes about rides malfunctioning and the inherent risks involved.
Michiganians Saving a Roller Coaster and Kid Rock's Summertime in Northern Michigan and Leagues Cup Semifinals and the MLS vs. Liga MX Rivalry
The conversation shifts to a viral video of Michiganians saving a roller coaster from tipping over. The speakers praise the Michiganians for their quick thinking and discuss the beauty of Northern Michigan, referencing Kid Rock's song "Summertime." The speakers discuss the Leagues Cup semifinals, a tournament featuring MLS and Liga MX teams. They highlight the rivalry between the two leagues and the recent fight that broke out in the crowd.
The MLS, Man City, and the Future of American Soccer and College Football's 12-Team Playoff and the Hawaii Warriors
The conversation focuses on the future of American soccer, specifically the potential of young American players like Cade Cowell. They discuss Cowell's decision to sign with Manchester City and his reasons for not wanting to play in the MLS. The speakers discuss the upcoming college football season, highlighting the impact of the new 12-team playoff. They focus on the Hawaii Warriors, a team with a unique gambling statistic that needs to be discussed.
Delaware State's Bus Snafu and the Hawaii Game and Hammering the Warriors and the "Hammer Downplay of the Century"
The conversation turns to Delaware State's football team, which missed their flight to Hawaii due to a bus snafu. The speakers discuss the impact of this event on the game and the potential for a big upset. The speakers make their gambling predictions for the Hawaii game, confidently choosing Hawaii to win. They declare this to be the "Hammer Downplay of the Century" and discuss their confidence in their gambling strategy.
Breaking News: Bow Nix Named Starting Quarterback for the Denver Broncos and Tannehill's Potential Return to the Pittsburgh Steelers
The speakers announce the breaking news that Bow Nix has been named the starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos. They discuss Nix's potential and how he fits into Sean Payton's offense. The conversation shifts to the Pittsburgh Steelers and the possibility of Ryan Tannehill returning to the team. The speakers discuss Tannehill's potential fit in the Steelers' offense and the current quarterback situation in Pittsburgh.
Cincinnati Bengals' Defensive Players Annoyed with Anthony Richardson and Colts Need a Spark
The speakers discuss reports of the Cincinnati Bengals' defensive players being annoyed with Anthony Richardson's lack of passing in practice. They analyze the situation and the potential impact on the team's performance. The speakers discuss the Colts' need for a spark and how they need to bring in a player who can inspire the team. They also talk about the importance of team spirit and how the Colts need to show more passion.
The Importance of Live Performances and The Need for a New DJ
The speakers discuss the importance of live performances and how they can create a more engaging experience for fans. They suggest that the Colts should bring in a live performer to energize the team and the crowd. The speakers discuss the need for a new DJ for the Colts and suggest that they should use a horse's voice as a third-down sound effect. They also talk about the importance of having a good DJ to create a lively atmosphere.
International Trip to Ireland and The Excitement of the New Season
The speakers discuss their upcoming trip to Ireland for a show and express their excitement about the experience. They also acknowledge the support of their fans and the opportunity to share their passion for football internationally. The speakers express their excitement for the upcoming football season and the potential for historic moments. They anticipate the rise and fall of players and teams, and the stories that will unfold throughout the season.
Keywords
**Simulcast**
A simulcast is a live broadcast of the same program on multiple platforms simultaneously. This allows viewers to access the content on their preferred platform, expanding the reach and audience of the show.
**Kickoff Rule**
The kickoff rule in American football governs the placement of the ball after a touchdown or field goal. The NFL is currently considering changes to the rule to address concerns about player safety and reduce the number of touchbacks.
**College GameDay**
College GameDay is a popular pre-game show on ESPN that provides analysis and commentary on the upcoming college football games. The show is known for its lively atmosphere, celebrity guests, and insightful coverage of the sport.
**NFL Network**
NFL Network is a 24/7 cable channel dedicated to covering the National Football League. It provides news, analysis, and live programming related to the NFL, including games, highlights, and behind-the-scenes content.
**International Expansion**
International expansion refers to the process of expanding a business or organization's operations into new countries or regions. The NFL has been actively pursuing international expansion in recent years, hosting games in London, Mexico City, and other locations.
**NIL Deals**
NIL deals refer to Name, Image, and Likeness deals that allow college athletes to profit from their personal brand and endorsements. The implementation of NIL deals has significantly changed the landscape of college athletics, raising questions about player compensation and the role of agents.
**Mullet**
A mullet is a hairstyle that is short on the sides and long in the back. It has become a cultural icon, particularly in the sports world, and is often associated with a rebellious or unconventional attitude.
**QR Code**
A QR code is a type of barcode that can be scanned by a smartphone or tablet to access information or complete a task. Oklahoma State has implemented a QR code initiative to facilitate NIL deals for its players, allowing fans to donate directly to them.
Q&A
What are some of the key changes happening in college football right now?
College football is undergoing a significant transformation with the introduction of NIL deals, which allow players to profit from their name, image, and likeness. This has led to increased negotiations between players and schools, and the potential for a shift towards a more contractual relationship.
How is the NFL expanding its reach internationally?
The NFL is actively expanding its reach internationally by hosting games in London, Munich, and Brazil. This strategy aims to grow the game's popularity globally and create new revenue streams.
What is Coach Mike Gundy's perspective on the future of college football?
Coach Mike Gundy believes that college football teams will eventually break away from the NCAA and form their own company. He sees this as a potential solution to the challenges presented by NIL deals and the evolving landscape of college athletics.
How is Oklahoma State using QR codes to facilitate NIL deals for its players?
Oklahoma State has implemented a QR code initiative that allows fans to donate directly to players through social media. This initiative aims to connect fans with players and provide them with a convenient way to support their NIL endeavors.
What is the significance of Oklahoma State's upcoming season opener against South Dakota State?
The game against South Dakota State is a significant test for Oklahoma State, as South Dakota State is a highly competitive FCS program that has won back-to-back national championships. This game will provide an early indication of Oklahoma State's readiness for the season.
What are some of the key takeaways from Caleb Williams's performance on Hard Knocks?
Caleb Williams has shown remarkable confidence and leadership, even as a young player. He seems unfazed by pressure and has a strong work ethic. His ability to handle pressure and his commitment to the game are impressive.
What are the potential changes to the new kickoff rule in the NFL?
The league is considering moving the touchback point from the 30-yard line to the 35-yard line. This change aims to encourage more returns and make the kickoff play more exciting. However, coaches are concerned about the impact of the change on the game and the potential for unfair advantages.
What are the implications of Apple's acquisition of Sunday Ticket?
Apple's acquisition of Sunday Ticket has raised concerns about the high price tag and the potential for a pay-per-view model in the future. Fans are worried about the cost of watching out-of-market games and the potential for increased costs in the future.
What is the latest on Brandon Aiyuk's contract dispute with the 49ers?
Aiyuk is likely to stay with the 49ers, as the deadline for a trade is approaching and the Steelers, the only team left in the running, would need to acquire him soon to get him up to speed for the season.
Show Notes
On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the news that Bo Nix has officially been named the starting QB for the Denver Broncos, along with all the other news around the NFL while we also prepare to head to Ireland tomorrow for the start of the college football season. Joining the show in the first hour to do a simulcast of his show is Rich Eisen, as Pat and Rich go live at the same time to chat about Michigan football, the Adam Schefter 40 yard dash, why the NFL is as big as it is, and much more. Next, Head Football Coach of Oklahoma State, Mike Gundy to chat about his recent comments about NIL, how much different things are now than when he was first the Head Coach, how he sees college football changing and what needs to be done in order to ensure it’s future, why he decided to cut his mullet and when we can be expecting it’s return, and much more in an incredible conversation. Later, the founder and owner of Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio joins the show to chat about if the NFL can make changes to the new dynamic kickoff before the start of the regular season, what he ultimately thinks is going to happen with the Brandon Aiyuk situation, Apple TV getting into the Sunday Ticket game, Michael Penix not getting anymore reps in the preseason, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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