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PMS 2.0 1201 - In The Trenches Wednesday With Kurt Warner, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

PMS 2.0 1201 - In The Trenches Wednesday With Kurt Warner, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Update: 2024-09-18
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This podcast covers a wide range of topics in the world of sports, focusing primarily on college and professional football. The hosts begin by discussing the West Virginia Mountaineers' recent struggles and their hopes for the team's future success. They then move on to preview the upcoming Big 12 football game between Oklahoma State and Utah, highlighting the importance of the game for both teams' playoff aspirations. The hosts also discuss the emergence of Kansas State as a contender in the conference. The podcast then delves into the NFL, discussing the impact of 0-2 starts for teams like the Dallas Cowboys and Baltimore Ravens, emphasizing the pressure and panic that can set in within those organizations. They then explore the news of Tua Tagovailoa's concussion and subsequent placement on injured reserve, exploring the implications for the Miami Dolphins and Tua's future. The hosts analyze the Kansas City Chiefs' victory over the Los Angeles Chargers, focusing on the controversial hands-to-the-face penalty that helped the Chiefs secure the win. They also discuss the Chiefs' decision to bench rookie left tackle Kingsley Suamata during a crucial drive, questioning the impact on his confidence. The podcast continues to discuss other notable NFL storylines, including Tua Tagovailoa's placement on injured reserve and the potential for a trade involving Matthew Stafford. They also explore the implications of Tua's injury for his future and the Dolphins' season. The hosts discuss the Miami Dolphins' upcoming schedule and their chances of success without Tua Tagovailoa. They also delve into the rumors of a potential trade for Matthew Stafford, exploring the possibility of Stafford joining the Dolphins and the impact it would have on the team. The podcast then shifts to discuss the influence of Shams Charania, a prominent sports journalist, in the sports media landscape. They highlight his reputation for breaking news and his ability to connect with sources across various sports. The hosts discuss the Carolina Panthers' decision to bench Bryce Young, their first overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. They analyze the reasons behind the move, including Young's struggles and the team's desire to move forward with Andy Dalton. The hosts interview Kurt Warner, a Hall of Fame quarterback, about his perspective on Bryce Young's benching. Warner shares his insights on the challenges of being a young quarterback in the NFL and the importance of learning and growing from adversity. The hosts discuss the evolution of offensive football and the impact on quarterback development. They explore the trend of simplifying offenses to accommodate athletic quarterbacks and the potential drawbacks of this approach. The hosts discuss the importance of quarterback involvement in protection schemes, highlighting the need for quarterbacks to understand their responsibilities and have a pressure plan. They also explore the different approaches to handling pressure and the role of offensive coordinators in building in hot throws and adjustments. The hosts discuss the challenges of evaluating players and the importance of film study. They express their frustration with analysts who make evaluations without sufficient film study and emphasize the need for credibility and accuracy in player assessments. The hosts discuss Kurt Warner's coaching and teaching website and YouTube channel, "Cubie Confidential." Warner explains the purpose of these platforms and the different levels of content available to viewers. The hosts discuss the importance of mentorship for young quarterbacks, highlighting the benefits of having a quality veteran in the quarterback room. They also explore the value of learning from experienced players about various aspects of being an NFL quarterback, including handling the media, teammates, and the demands of the job. The podcast discusses the departure of Woj from ESPN and how Shomsha is the perfect replacement for the role of NBA insider. Shomsha's connections and ability to break news make him a valuable asset to any team. The podcast dives into the recent performance of Arch Manning, the highly-touted quarterback for the Texas Longhorns. His impressive performance, including five touchdowns, has sparked a debate about whether he could potentially challenge Quinn Ewers for the starting position. AJ Hawk, a former Ohio State football player, joins the podcast to discuss the Arch Manning situation and his thoughts on the Texas Longhorns. He believes that Quinn Ewers is still the starter, but acknowledges the potential impact of Manning's talent. JJ Watt, a former NFL defensive end, joins the podcast to discuss his brother TJ Watt's incredible performance for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He highlights TJ's sack titles and the impact he has on the team's success. The podcast discusses Aiden Hutchinson's impressive performance for the Detroit Lions, including a game with four and a half sacks. However, the team's struggles are also acknowledged, with a focus on the need for improvement. JJ Watt shares his thoughts on the Houston Texans' defense, praising their aggressive style and the leadership of head coach Demiko Ryans. He believes that the Texans have the potential to be a strong team in the future. The podcast discusses Anthony Richardson's rookie season with the Indianapolis Colts, highlighting his impressive talent and potential. The conversation also touches on the Colts' overall performance and the challenges they face. JJ Watt shares his perspective on post-game handshakes and jersey swaps, acknowledging the changing dynamics in the NFL. He believes that while it's great to see players helping each other out, there's still a place for the old school mentality of focusing on the game. The podcast discusses the challenges of hosting a podcast after a team's loss, particularly for players who are highly competitive. The conversation explores the importance of dealing with disappointment and the pressure to perform well. The podcast discusses Jason Kelce's return to the Eagles broadcast after his retirement. The conversation highlights his entertaining presence and the potential for conflict with Atlanta fans. The podcast discusses the Arizona Cardinals' offense and Kyler Murray's impressive performance. The conversation explores the impact of the new head coach and the potential for sustained success in Arizona. JJ Watt discusses his soccer team's recent win and his upcoming trip to England. The conversation touches on the possibility of his team competing in the Champions League and the challenges of navigating different leagues. The podcast discusses the popular show "Bad Monkey" and the potential for its success. The conversation also touches on the changing landscape of television and the impact of streaming services. The podcast discusses the appeal of game shows, particularly "Jeopardy" and "Hole in the Wall." The conversation explores the different types of trivia shows and the excitement of competing against knowledgeable contestants. The podcast discusses the importance of coaches taking ownership of their team's performance. The conversation highlights the challenges of coaching and the need to adapt to changing circumstances. The podcast discusses National Cheeseburger Day and Andy Reid's unique response to a question about the holiday. The conversation highlights the importance of celebrating small moments and the joy of a good cheeseburger. The podcast discusses the Kansas City Chiefs' decision to replace their rookie left tackle, Trey Hendrix, during the game-winning drive. The hosts debate whether this was a wise move, considering the potential impact on Hendrix's confidence. The hosts delve into their weekly ranking of the top performing offensive lines in the NFL. They highlight the impressive performance of the Atlanta Falcons, who have shown significant improvement from week one. The hosts crown the New Orleans Saints as the number one performing offensive line of the week. They praise their physicality and schematic dominance, particularly highlighting the contributions of Lucas Patrick and Trevor Penning. The hosts discuss the cyclical nature of football and how the NFL is transitioning back to a more physical style of play. They believe this shift will favor larger linebackers, who are better equipped to handle downhill running attacks. The hosts discuss the increasing prevalence of offensive linemen taking penalties to disrupt the opposing defense. They argue that this tactic, while controversial, can be effective in creating momentum and disrupting the flow of the game. The hosts discuss the importance of fan investment in their local teams, both financially and emotionally. They express frustration with fans who support multiple teams and lack genuine enthusiasm for their own city's team. The hosts transition to college football, highlighting the top stories of the week. They discuss the emergence of Arch Manning as a potential star quarterback for Texas, the struggles of Georgia against Kentucky, and the dominance of Miami. The hosts discuss the surprising success of Indiana and Nebraska, both undefeated teams with strong offensive performances. They highlight the impact of Coach Tom Allen at Indiana and the potential for a big matchup between the two teams later in the season. The hosts discuss the coaching career of Matt Rule, who has taken over as head coach of Nebraska. They praise his experience and the potential for him to turn around the program, drawing comparisons to his time at Penn State. The hosts discuss the upcoming matchup between Tennessee and Oklahoma, two top-ranked teams in the SEC. They highlight the strengths of both teams, including the quarterbacks and defenses, and the potential for a high-scoring game. The hosts discuss the impressive offensive line of the North Carolina Tar Heels, despite missing their starting right tackle. They also discuss the possibility of a "Price is Right" giveaway, with a challenge for Acu Shipley to make a basketball shot.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction and West Virginia Mountaineers Football

The podcast begins with introductions and a discussion about the West Virginia Mountaineers football team's recent struggles. The hosts express their disappointment with the team's performance and their desire for the team to reach a higher level of success.

00:04:07
Big 12 Football Preview

The hosts preview the upcoming Big 12 football game between Oklahoma State and Utah, highlighting the importance of the game for both teams' playoff aspirations. They also discuss the emergence of Kansas State as a contender in the conference.

00:05:06
NFL Week 2 Storylines and Tua Tagovailoa's Injury

The hosts discuss the impact of 0-2 starts for teams like the Dallas Cowboys and Baltimore Ravens, emphasizing the pressure and panic that can set in within those organizations. They then delve into the news of Tua Tagovailoa's concussion and subsequent placement on injured reserve, exploring the implications for the Miami Dolphins and Tua's future.

00:09:51
The Kansas City Chiefs' Controversial Win and Kingsley Suamata's Benching

The hosts analyze the Kansas City Chiefs' victory over the Los Angeles Chargers, focusing on the controversial hands-to-the-face penalty that helped the Chiefs secure the win. They also discuss the Chiefs' decision to bench rookie left tackle Kingsley Suamata during a crucial drive, questioning the impact on his confidence.

00:12:46
Other NFL Storylines and the Future of Tua Tagovailoa

The hosts discuss other notable NFL storylines, including Tua Tagovailoa's placement on injured reserve and the potential for a trade involving Matthew Stafford. They also explore the implications of Tua's injury for his future and the Dolphins' season.

00:19:38
Miami Dolphins' Next Four Weeks and Potential Trade for Matthew Stafford

The hosts discuss the Miami Dolphins' upcoming schedule and their chances of success without Tua Tagovailoa. They also delve into the rumors of a potential trade for Matthew Stafford, exploring the possibility of Stafford joining the Dolphins and the impact it would have on the team.

00:20:55
Shams Charania's Role in the Sports Media Landscape

The hosts discuss the influence of Shams Charania, a prominent sports journalist, in the sports media landscape. They highlight his reputation for breaking news and his ability to connect with sources across various sports.

00:22:50
The Carolina Panthers' Decision to Bench Bryce Young

The hosts discuss the Carolina Panthers' decision to bench Bryce Young, their first overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. They analyze the reasons behind the move, including Young's struggles and the team's desire to move forward with Andy Dalton.

00:26:45
Kurt Warner's Perspective on Bryce Young's Benching

The hosts interview Kurt Warner, a Hall of Fame quarterback, about his perspective on Bryce Young's benching. Warner shares his insights on the challenges of being a young quarterback in the NFL and the importance of learning and growing from adversity.

00:31:54
The Evolution of Offensive Football and the Role of Quarterback Development

The hosts discuss the evolution of offensive football and the impact on quarterback development. They explore the trend of simplifying offenses to accommodate athletic quarterbacks and the potential drawbacks of this approach.

00:40:49
The Importance of Quarterback Involvement in Protection Schemes

The hosts discuss the importance of quarterback involvement in protection schemes, highlighting the need for quarterbacks to understand their responsibilities and have a pressure plan. They also explore the different approaches to handling pressure and the role of offensive coordinators in building in hot throws and adjustments.

00:46:53
The Challenges of Evaluating Players and the Importance of Film Study

The hosts discuss the challenges of evaluating players and the importance of film study. They express their frustration with analysts who make evaluations without sufficient film study and emphasize the need for credibility and accuracy in player assessments.

00:52:07
Kurt Warner's Coaching and Teaching Website and YouTube Channel

The hosts discuss Kurt Warner's coaching and teaching website and YouTube channel, "Cubie Confidential." Warner explains the purpose of these platforms and the different levels of content available to viewers.

00:53:35
The Importance of Mentorship for Young Quarterbacks

The hosts discuss the importance of mentorship for young quarterbacks, highlighting the benefits of having a quality veteran in the quarterback room. They also explore the value of learning from experienced players about various aspects of being an NFL quarterback, including handling the media, teammates, and the demands of the job.

00:58:09
Woj's Departure and Shomsha's Rise

The podcast discusses the departure of Woj from ESPN and how Shomsha is the perfect replacement for the role of NBA insider. Shomsha's connections and ability to break news make him a valuable asset to any team.

01:01:15
Arch Manning's Impact on Texas Football

The podcast dives into the recent performance of Arch Manning, the highly-touted quarterback for the Texas Longhorns. His impressive performance, including five touchdowns, has sparked a debate about whether he could potentially challenge Quinn Ewers for the starting position.

01:06:35
AJ Hawk Joins the Show

AJ Hawk, a former Ohio State football player, joins the podcast to discuss the Arch Manning situation and his thoughts on the Texas Longhorns. He believes that Quinn Ewers is still the starter, but acknowledges the potential impact of Manning's talent.

01:12:12
JJ Watt Discusses TJ Watt's Dominance

JJ Watt, a former NFL defensive end, joins the podcast to discuss his brother TJ Watt's incredible performance for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He highlights TJ's sack titles and the impact he has on the team's success.

01:18:44
Aiden Hutchinson's Rise and the Lions' Struggles

The podcast discusses Aiden Hutchinson's impressive performance for the Detroit Lions, including a game with four and a half sacks. However, the team's struggles are also acknowledged, with a focus on the need for improvement.

01:22:51
The Houston Texans' Defense and Demiko Ryans' Leadership

JJ Watt shares his thoughts on the Houston Texans' defense, praising their aggressive style and the leadership of head coach Demiko Ryans. He believes that the Texans have the potential to be a strong team in the future.

01:28:54
Anthony Richardson's Rookie Season and the Colts' Future

The podcast discusses Anthony Richardson's rookie season with the Indianapolis Colts, highlighting his impressive talent and potential. The conversation also touches on the Colts' overall performance and the challenges they face.

01:35:14
Post-Game Handshakes and the Old School Mentality

JJ Watt shares his perspective on post-game handshakes and jersey swaps, acknowledging the changing dynamics in the NFL. He believes that while it's great to see players helping each other out, there's still a place for the old school mentality of focusing on the game.

01:40:38
The Challenges of Podcasting After a Loss

The podcast discusses the challenges of hosting a podcast after a team's loss, particularly for players who are highly competitive. The conversation explores the importance of dealing with disappointment and the pressure to perform well.

01:42:24
Jason Kelce's Return to the Eagles Broadcast

The podcast discusses Jason Kelce's return to the Eagles broadcast after his retirement. The conversation highlights his entertaining presence and the potential for conflict with Atlanta fans.

01:44:31
The Arizona Cardinals' Offense and Kyler Murray's Transformation

The podcast discusses the Arizona Cardinals' offense and Kyler Murray's impressive performance. The conversation explores the impact of the new head coach and the potential for sustained success in Arizona.

01:51:38
JJ Watt's Soccer Team and the Champions League

JJ Watt discusses his soccer team's recent win and his upcoming trip to England. The conversation touches on the possibility of his team competing in the Champions League and the challenges of navigating different leagues.

01:59:52
"Bad Monkey" and the Future of Television

The podcast discusses the popular show "Bad Monkey" and the potential for its success. The conversation also touches on the changing landscape of television and the impact of streaming services.

02:05:13
Game Shows and the Power of Trivia

The podcast discusses the appeal of game shows, particularly "Jeopardy" and "Hole in the Wall." The conversation explores the different types of trivia shows and the excitement of competing against knowledgeable contestants.

02:10:48
Coach Shane Stock and the Importance of Ownership

The podcast discusses the importance of coaches taking ownership of their team's performance. The conversation highlights the challenges of coaching and the need to adapt to changing circumstances.

02:13:13
National Cheeseburger Day and Andy Reid's Unique Response

The podcast discusses National Cheeseburger Day and Andy Reid's unique response to a question about the holiday. The conversation highlights the importance of celebrating small moments and the joy of a good cheeseburger.

02:14:56
Rookie Left Tackle Struggles in Chiefs' Game-Winning Drive

The podcast discusses the Kansas City Chiefs' decision to replace their rookie left tackle, Trey Hendrix, during the game-winning drive. The hosts debate whether this was a wise move, considering the potential impact on Hendrix's confidence.

02:17:16
Top Performing Offensive Lines of Week 2

The hosts delve into their weekly ranking of the top performing offensive lines in the NFL. They highlight the impressive performance of the Atlanta Falcons, who have shown significant improvement from week one.

02:27:43
New Orleans Saints Dominate with Offensive Line Prowess

The hosts crown the New Orleans Saints as the number one performing offensive line of the week. They praise their physicality and schematic dominance, particularly highlighting the contributions of Lucas Patrick and Trevor Penning.

02:30:05
The Return of Big Linebackers in the NFL

The hosts discuss the cyclical nature of football and how the NFL is transitioning back to a more physical style of play. They believe this shift will favor larger linebackers, who are better equipped to handle downhill running attacks.

02:32:08
The Rise of "Prick" Offensive Linemen

The hosts discuss the increasing prevalence of offensive linemen taking penalties to disrupt the opposing defense. They argue that this tactic, while controversial, can be effective in creating momentum and disrupting the flow of the game.

02:35:12
The Importance of Team Investment and Fan Engagement

The hosts discuss the importance of fan investment in their local teams, both financially and emotionally. They express frustration with fans who support multiple teams and lack genuine enthusiasm for their own city's team.

02:44:12
Top College Football Stories of the Week

The hosts transition to college football, highlighting the top stories of the week. They discuss the emergence of Arch Manning as a potential star quarterback for Texas, the struggles of Georgia against Kentucky, and the dominance of Miami.

02:51:53
The Rise of Indiana and Nebraska in College Football

The hosts discuss the surprising success of Indiana and Nebraska, both undefeated teams with strong offensive performances. They highlight the impact of Coach Tom Allen at Indiana and the potential for a big matchup between the two teams later in the season.

02:55:06
Matt Rule's Impact on Nebraska Football

The hosts discuss the coaching career of Matt Rule, who has taken over as head coach of Nebraska. They praise his experience and the potential for him to turn around the program, drawing comparisons to his time at Penn State.

02:59:14
Oklahoma's Return to the SEC

The hosts discuss the upcoming matchup between Tennessee and Oklahoma, two top-ranked teams in the SEC. They highlight the strengths of both teams, including the quarterbacks and defenses, and the potential for a high-scoring game.

03:02:50
The Tar Heels' Offensive Line and a Price is Right Giveaway

The hosts discuss the impressive offensive line of the North Carolina Tar Heels, despite missing their starting right tackle. They also discuss the possibility of a "Price is Right" giveaway, with a challenge for Acu Shipley to make a basketball shot.

Keywords

**Pure Progression Offenses**


Offensive schemes where the quarterback's read progression remains the same regardless of the defensive coverage. This simplifies the quarterback's decision-making but can hinder their development in reading defenses and making adjustments.

**Full Field Reads**


Offensive schemes where the quarterback's read progression changes based on the defensive coverage. This requires more complex decision-making but allows quarterbacks to develop a deeper understanding of defenses and make adjustments based on what they see.

**Hot Throws**


Pre-determined throws designed to protect the quarterback from pressure. These throws are typically made to a specific receiver or area of the field based on the type of pressure the quarterback is facing.

**Pressure Plan**


A quarterback's strategy for handling pressure, including identifying potential pressure situations, knowing their hot throws, and understanding their responsibilities in protection schemes.

**N-I-L**


Name, Image, and Likeness, a new rule in college athletics that allows athletes to profit from their name, image, and likeness. This has had a significant impact on college football, particularly in recruiting and player development.

**Transfer Portal**


An online system that allows college athletes to transfer to different schools without having to sit out a year. This has increased player movement in college football and has been a topic of debate regarding its impact on player development and team stability.

**Concussion**


A brain injury caused by a blow to the head or a sudden shaking of the head. Concussions are a serious concern in football, and there is ongoing research and debate about their long-term effects on players.

**Injured Reserve (IR)**


A designation in the NFL that allows players with injuries to be placed on a list for a minimum of four weeks. This allows players time to recover and potentially return to play later in the season.

**Analytics**


The use of data and statistical analysis to evaluate and improve performance in sports. Analytics has become increasingly prevalent in football, influencing decisions regarding player evaluation, game strategy, and coaching.

**Mentorship**


The guidance and support provided by a more experienced person to a less experienced person. Mentorship is crucial in football, particularly for young quarterbacks who can benefit from learning from veterans about the nuances of the game, the demands of the job, and how to handle pressure.

Q&A

  • What are the key differences between pure progression offenses and full field reads, and how do these differences impact quarterback development?

    Pure progression offenses simplify the quarterback's read progression, making it easier to learn but potentially hindering their ability to read defenses and make adjustments. Full field reads require more complex decision-making but allow quarterbacks to develop a deeper understanding of defenses and become more adaptable.

  • Why is it important for quarterbacks to have a pressure plan and be involved in protection schemes?

    A pressure plan helps quarterbacks handle pressure effectively by identifying potential pressure situations, knowing their hot throws, and understanding their responsibilities in protection schemes. This allows them to make quick decisions and protect themselves from sacks.

  • How has the rise of analytics impacted the game of football, particularly in terms of player evaluation and game strategy?

    Analytics has become increasingly prevalent in football, influencing decisions regarding player evaluation, game strategy, and coaching. Teams use data and statistical analysis to identify talent, optimize play calls, and make adjustments during games.

  • What are the benefits of mentorship for young quarterbacks, and how can it help them succeed in the NFL?

    Mentorship provides young quarterbacks with guidance and support from experienced players, helping them learn the nuances of the game, the demands of the job, and how to handle pressure. This can accelerate their development and increase their chances of success.

  • What are some of the challenges facing young quarterbacks in the NFL today, and how can they overcome these challenges?

    Young quarterbacks face challenges such as high expectations, pressure to perform immediately, and the complexity of the NFL game. They can overcome these challenges by learning from experienced players, studying film diligently, and developing a strong work ethic.

  • How can fans and analysts contribute to a more accurate and informed discussion about players and the game of football?

    Fans and analysts can contribute to a more accurate and informed discussion by doing their research, watching film, and avoiding making hasty judgments based on limited information. They should also be critical of sources and narratives that lack credibility or evidence.

  • What are some of the key takeaways from Kurt Warner's insights on quarterback development and the current state of offensive football?

    Kurt Warner emphasizes the importance of quarterback development, particularly in reading defenses and making adjustments based on what they see. He also highlights the need for quarterbacks to be involved in protection schemes and have a pressure plan.

  • How can teams create a more supportive and developmental environment for young quarterbacks?

    Teams can create a more supportive and developmental environment for young quarterbacks by providing them with quality mentorship, allowing them to learn from experienced players, and giving them opportunities to develop their skills without excessive pressure.

  • What are some of the key factors that contribute to the success of quarterbacks in the NFL?

    Key factors that contribute to the success of quarterbacks in the NFL include talent, work ethic, intelligence, leadership, and the ability to adapt to different situations. They also need to have a strong understanding of the game, be able to read defenses, and make quick decisions under pressure.

  • What are some of the key factors that make Shomsha a valuable NBA insider?

    Shomsha's connections, ability to break news, and understanding of the insider game make him a valuable asset. He has a network of sources and is always on top of the latest developments in the NBA.

Show Notes

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys start to look ahead at week 3 of the NFL season while putting a bow on all the stories from week 2, and looking at which teams might already be panicking sitting at 0-2, before also covering the six most important stories of the college football season going into week 4. Joining the show to chat about Quarterback play as a whole in the NFL right now, how it has changed since he was playing, the Bryce Young situation, and mentoring young QB’s is Hall of Famer, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 2x MVP, and NFL Network Analyst, Kurt Warner. Later, future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, countless Pro Bowl and All-Pro nods, and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the progrum to give his biggest takeaways from week 2 including how dominant his brother has been, if he thinks the Cardinals are serious contenders, the Colts gameplan against the Packers, his thoughts on the Texans as a whole after a dominant defensive performance against the Bears, and everything else that stood out to him. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.

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PMS 2.0 1201 - In The Trenches Wednesday With Kurt Warner, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

PMS 2.0 1201 - In The Trenches Wednesday With Kurt Warner, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Pat McAfee, ESPN