Getting work in the art industry can be a rough ride, filled with mystery, elitism and BS. Our new podcast, 'Give me a break' hears from those who've made it work their way, often against the odds. Hosted by Harriet Lloyd-Smith, managing editor at Plaster, Give Me A Break is not a career how-to guide; it's a series of honest stories about different paths to success (however that's defined). Spoiler alert: nothing was easy.

For episode one, we’re joined by British painter Pam Evelyn. Since graduating from the RCA in 2022, Pam has exhibited internationally, joined Pace gallery, and become a standout of her generation. But it wasn’t all smooth sailing to get here. Pam and Harriet open up about failure and false starts, juggling hospitality jobs, losing confidence and regaining it.

Pam Evelyn interviewed by Harriet Lloyd-Smith; Production: Dora DB; Editing and sound: Steven Llewellyn; Image: Pam photographed by Robert Glowacki, courtesy Pace Gallery