Joel Glanzberg speaks with Joanna about: the origin of Regenesis, regenerative planning and development; becoming conscious together of the place where we live; giving back the love and freedom of a childhood in the woods; a life-changing reading of a spiritual vision; belonging to a living and sacred landscape; “Pattern Mind”, a forthcoming book about living in alignment with the patterns of Nature; living in a world of invisible layers; overcoming our shame and remembering our original instructions; the care that unites us; the ancestral use of disruption to develop more complex ecosystems; how do we learn from a virus…?.