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Podcast: How Trump is Threatening Public Lands and the Agencies We Created to Manage Them

Podcast: How Trump is Threatening Public Lands and the Agencies We Created to Manage Them

Update: 2025-07-28
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Public Domain is a valuable Substack project founded by journalists focused on U.S. public lands and the agencies responsible for managing those assets for all Americans.

Here’s the podcast post of my conversation with two co-founders, Chris D'Angelo and Jimmy Tobias. You can watch and share on Facebook, LinkedIn, X/Twitter and YouTube.

Here’s one excerpt. I asked Jimmy Tobias how it feels to cover agencies starkly up-ended from their traditional role (I allude to the “fire dpeartment” in the sci-fi story and film Fahrenheit 451, which burns books and homes instead of fighting fire). He says:

Yeah, I mean, it is surreal. It's always kind of shocking what's going on behind the scenes… We just published a story about a guy who had worked as an offshore lobbyist for the offshore industry for years. And then he just got the offshore industry regulatory agency at the Interior Department. It's called the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management. And, you know, we got a bunch of his emails and his calendar entries. And lo and behold, he's working on the exact same issues now that he's in government that he was working on as a lobbyist, which strikes me as like a major conflict of interest.

The curtain raiser post with more background is here:

Today’s Public Domain post is here:

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Podcast: How Trump is Threatening Public Lands and the Agencies We Created to Manage Them

Podcast: How Trump is Threatening Public Lands and the Agencies We Created to Manage Them

Andy @Revkin