In this episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into the evolving discourse around race, identity, and mixed-race marriage. They explore how recent cultural and political shifts—especially on the far left—have led to new critiques of interracial relationships, even labeling them as problematic or “racist.” The discussion covers Dungeons & Dragons’ controversial changes to mixed-race characters, the shifting definitions of racism, and real-world examples from politics and academia. The conversation is both thought-provoking and irreverent, challenging mainstream narratives and encouraging viewers to question what it really means to be “post-racist” in today’s society.

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Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be discussing a few topics. One is on how the far left have begun to attack and see interracial marriages and interracial humans as an inherently racist concept. The far left.

Simone Collins (2): Wait, hold

Malcolm Collins: on. I don’t know if you know this, Simone, this happened a few years ago.

‘cause it’s one of the things we’re gonna be talking about this, but did you know that d and d no longer allows characters to create mixed race characters? Wait, so like

Simone Collins (2): an elf can’t marry an ork or no such

Malcolm Collins: thing as half? No. So you can have a character that is technically a half elf. IE their mom is an alpha, but the, but the husband’s a, a human.

Okay. But they can only have the traits of either elves or humans. They can’t have the traits of both. So basically you have to choose one of your parents, and that’s your real ethnicity. Like this is considered less offensive than being mixed race. And we’re gonna be going over this incident that happened a few years ago because I think it’s actually interesting and [00:01:00 ] that it explains the psychology of how they think race mixing is okay.

And how they think it’s not okay. And we’ll be going into quotes from famous democratic politicians and media figures, basically attacking the concept of mixed race marriages. Oh my God, what. And on top of all that I think that this is interesting to discuss, not from a haha, look at them, they’re the racist.

Now perspective, like anybody who’s saying knows that. It’s more interesting to study from sort of the anthropological perspective of what is racism mean today to sustain people. What does it mean to Democrats? Where do we go? Societally and where are they going societally in terms of their understanding of race.

And it’s where I’ll be laying out a new concept, which I would say is what we are which I call post racist. Or if you want a longer term for it, post scientific racist which is to say. I think that the way that we [00:02:00 ] should relate to ethnicities and racial groups as a society mm-hmm. Is to, and this is what I would say is the position of the post racist right.

Rather than the anti-racist mm-hmm. Is to say that, you know, there are differences between groups. What those differences are might be hard to quantify, but like, you shouldn’t like re or freak out just ‘cause somebody’s like, this group is different from this group. Because when you do you can lead to really systemic damage to some populations.

Like, for example, a lot of black women are completely unaware. Did they have, I think it’s 50% higher rate of pregnancy complications in early pregnancy terminations than white women do. And so they, they don’t take, because they, they’ve been grown up told you’re biologically exactly like a white woman.

And so they don’t make and take this into account when they’re planning their fertility window, which is why when you’re looking at Americans who are over the bottom, I wanna say like 20% of income blacks have the lowest fertility rate because the, the, the black people who like. Plan, go to school, everything like that.

They, they are [00:03:00 ] unaware that their biology is gonna make this harder for them than it is in their, their, their white and Asian friends. Then you’ve got the, the problem of so, so. We don’t do that. But we accept our differences and we value our differences. Like humanity is good because we are diverse, and it is through that diversity that we can challenge things and learn from each other, right?

Like our first thought both the wokes and the racist do, this is what we pointed out before. It’s when they see a group out competing them. And I laid out this theory before, but it’s a very important theory to, to understand when you’re talking about differences between groups. IE. This group has more money or more political power or more success than this group.

There are only three explanations for that. One explanation is cultural differences. One explanation is genetic differences, and the other explanation is they put some sort of something systemic into practice that basically cheats the system in their favor.

Malcolm Collins (2): Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: And the problem is, is that [00:04:00 ] when you say that groups are not culturally different.

And anybody who says that certainly believes groups aren’t genetically different, it means you assume all differences are due to somebody cheating. And you know, this is as true when BLM says that they’ve been cheated by white populations as it is when white supremacists say that the Jews cheated them.

You know, it’s, it’s, it’s a toxic similarity between these two groups

Simone Collins (2): for sure.

Malcolm Collins: The post racist seems and says, I won’t fall for that. I will admit that some groups. Can create systemic biases in their favor. Yeah. As Simone talked about, you know, like Vietnamese nail salons and stuff like that.

Cartels

Simone Collins (2): and the Patel Motels, et cetera. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And that sometimes a society can, even through slavery or something, you know, create dramatic systemic advantages for certain groups. Mm-hmm. But that it is important to focus on cultural differences. And eventually when it’s was in the realm of things we can control genetic differences

Malcolm Collins (2): mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Just as much. Yeah. The reason why we don’t focus much on genetic [00:05:00 ] differences right now is it’s just not something you could do much about. So, being aware that it exists. Is different. And, and note here, I have made no claims about differences in say IQ between Es ethnic groups. Mm-hmm. We have never ever said that.

And we, we won’t say that. But I wanna go into the DD thing because I think it’s interesting and then we’re gonna go into quotes where, this is so crazy though. Just

Simone Collins (2): like the very premise that you set out is so blowing my mind because I grew up believing that racism was. I hate this group or this group is bad.

And now I’m realizing that all the racism that people are being accused of, like within our social networks is how dare you recognize genetic differences? Which is insane. But that also, yeah, the only groups I know of that are like, this group is evil. Are the ones saying, are you ashamed of your white privilege?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins (2): Which is so crazy. We had somebody

Malcolm Collins: ask us that a couple days ago. That’s why this is top of mind.

Simone Collins (2): Okay, go on though. This is, this is just blowing my mind because I, I had [00:06:00 ] always thought that like the racism that you know, like the definition of racism has always. Like, oh, it hasn’t changed, but like, man, the, it really has.

Yeah, it has changed.

Malcolm Collins: And I think we need a new definition for whatever wokes are, because I think you can just call them racist, but they’re, they’re kind of something new that has the qualities that would’ve been defined as racist in the nineties or whatever. But of course, they won’t accept that RA label.

So, what, what, what can we call them? I don’t know. You, you can think of some new term for this as we go through this other than just post races. Chime

Simone Collins (2): in the comments.

Malcolm Collins: But wizards of the Coast, a company that publishes the official materials of the Roleplaying game, DUNS and Dragons, is planning to eliminate the half elf, half ORC races in forthcoming editions.

They say the half elf construct is inherently racist according to game designers. By the way, I’m reading for reason here. This is them talking here. Frankly, we are not comfortable and haven’t been for years with any of the options that start with half said Jeremy Crawford, a DD rules, designers a [00:07:00 ] at a virtual event last weekend to play d and d.

It’s necessary to design characters with specific race. Human elf, dwarf, gnome, et cetera, and specific class ranger, barbarian, cleric, et cetera. The official materials offer guidance for doing so. The races and classes have specific characteristics. Elves have long natural lifespans. Orcs can see in the dark and so on.

But players can also make a character with mixed racial traits. Half elves are characters. Ways that one human parent and one elf parent half orcs are characters. Ways that one human. Parent and one orc parent. Well, it’s possible to design other mixed race characters. Again, official materials make it clear that everyone can do whatever they want.

These two combinations are specifically listed ones and they have t