Reinventing Newsrooms: AI as Friend, Not Foe - with Pete Paschal

Update: 2025-01-24

Description

Is AI the savior or the destroyer of journalism? As media outlets grapple with dwindling trust and audiences, could artificial intelligence be the key to revitalizing the industry, or is it the final nail in its coffin?

In this episode of The Trending Communicator, host Dan Nestle sits down with seasoned journalist turned AI consultant, educator, trainer, and founder of the popular Media Copilot newsletter, Pete Pachal. Together, they dissect the complex relationships between communications professionals and journalists as media becomes more fractured and AI's advance continues.

Pete shares his journey from engineering to journalism, recounting his experiences at influential digital media outlets like Mashable and Coindesk. As the conversation unfolds, Dan and Pete examine the current state of media, the challenges faced by both journalists and PR professionals and how AI is reshaping the entire landscape.

Pete offers invaluable insights on how newsrooms and PR teams can adapt to this new reality, emphasizing the importance of transparency, ethical frameworks, and maintaining the human touch in an increasingly automated world. He also shares his predictions for the future of media and communications, painting a picture of an industry that's both challenged and empowered by AI.

Whether you're a journalist, PR professional, or simply interested in the future of media, this episode provides a balanced and nuanced look at how AI is reshaping the way we create, consume, and distribute information. Don't miss this opportunity to gain a deeper understanding of the opportunities and pitfalls that lie ahead in the brave new world of AI-assisted communications.

Listen in and hear about...

AI's transformative impact on media and journalism
Challenges and opportunities for PR professionals in the AI era
Evolving strategies for earning attention in a fragmented media landscape
Ethical considerations of AI-generated content and transparency
Innovative AI tools reshaping content creation and distribution
The enduring value of human creativity and critical thinking in storytelling
Balancing AI assistance with maintaining authentic voice and expertise

Notable Quotes

On the Evolution of Digital Media: "Mashable was trying to be kind of like the millennial version of CNN at some point. So really, you know, struck gold with its strategy, which very few people were doing at the time, in the late 2000s, early 2010s of going all in on social media." - Pete Pachal [07:47 → 08:09 ]

On AI's Impact on Journalism: "AI is affecting everything with regard to media at every layer, like the distribution, the production, just the story ideas even. And that idea of doing something quick and easy and employing whether it's interns or junior level people to just fire out those posts, that's a job for a robot now." - Pete Pachal [12:52 → 13:11 ]

On the Changing Media Landscape: "Media itself is on its own hero's journey and now they're going through these trials and tribulations and they need to pass through them to get to the other side where they will be welcomed with open arms and redeemed if they follow the cycle." - Dan Nestle [13:53 → 14:11 ]

On the Role of AI in Journalism: "The quick, the quick application, I guess a statement I would say about applying AI to journalism is it's like super easy to abuse and harder to use." - Pete Pachal [16:42 → 17:07 ]

On the Future of AI-Generated Content: "I don't know a single journalist now who doesn't at least use perplexity or something like it every now and then, at least. Right. And there's other ways to improve that. Chief among them is essentially using AI with your own data, whether it's your stories or in the case of say, a legal reporter, using it on all these sort of legal documents around a case, which is a relatively easy thing to set up." - Pete Pachal [17:28 → 17:54 ]

On the Future of AI in Media: "I think there's actually a better reason to do this kind of thing. And I think that the reason other orgs may want to start doing this for basically stories they don't have people for but are still relevant to their beat or their area of expertise is to make sure their corpus of content includes those stories." - Pete Pachal [22:32 → 22:50 ]

On the Importance of Human Touch in Writing: "Writing is thinking. And he's right. The act of writing is not separable from the storytelling phase of it. And I think every writer knows this. As you're writing a story and you're, you know, you're figuring out transitions and things, you're like, oh, right, I should say this or I should say that." - Pete Pachal [46:28 → 46:48 ]

Resources and Links

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Timestamped key moments from this episode (as generated by Fireflies.ai)

🍽️ Media and AI Relationship (00:00 - 01:27 )

Daniel Nestle discusses the strained relationship between communications professionals and the media, comparing it to a marital struggle over dinner choices.

Trust in media is at an all-time low, with audiences feeling bored by dull content and seeking news elsewhere.

🤖 AI's Role in Media Transformation (01:27 - 03:28 )

Daniel emphasizes that the answers to improving media can be found in the proliferation of AI.
Pete Pachal, a journalist and AI thought leader, is introduced as a guest who will share insights on AI's impact on the media industry.

🛤️ Pete Pachal's Career Journey (03:28 - 06:38 )

Pete shares his background in engineering and journalism, highlighting his roles at Mashable and Coindesk.
He discusses his fascination with AI and how he developed AI strategies at Coindesk, recognizing its potential to change media.

📉 Challenges Facing Digital Media (06:38 - 10:05 )

Both Daniel and Pete reflect on the rise and fall of digital media brands like Mashable and BuzzFeed, noting their initial success in social media.
Old media brands have adapted, hiring talent from digital startups to regain relevance.

🔄 AI's Impact on Content Creation (10:05 - 13:49 )

Pete discusses how AI can automate low-value content creation, allowing journalists to focus on more meaningful storytelling.
The decline of quick-hit articles is seen as a positive shift towards quality journalism.

📊 AI in Journalism Processes (13:49 - 19:07 )

Pete outlines how AI can assist in the journalism pipeline, particularly in brainstorming, research, and distribution.
AI tools can enhance efficiency by taking over repetitive tasks, allowing journalists to concentrate on storytelling.

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