This week Jen introduces Amy and the For the Love audience to her long-time friend, comedian Heather Land, who gained fame as a social media sensation through her viral I Ain’t Doin’ It videos. They discuss Heather’s journey from an early career in ministry to one in comedy, and now to her newest passion project, life coaching. Heather talks to Jen and Amy about the impact of burnout and the challenges of reinventing oneself, especially at different life stages and finding joy in her new creative project, the Dear Heathers podcast (that she co-hosts with best-friend Heather Lenard) encouraging other women to embrace their journeys and feel empowered.

In this episode:

• Jen and Amy share their mixed feelings on receiving unsolicited advice.


• Inspired by the Dear Heathers podcast, Amy and Jen reminisce about what it was like using landline phones when they were teens. Shocker: Jen even remembers her old phone number!


• The group talks about the importance of recognizing signs of burnout and how reinventing oneself is a vital part of personal growth


• Heather shares how support from friends can play a crucial role in our journey, like when her friend advised her to ‘do it [comedy] afraid’.


• Jen, Amy, and Heather talk about women looking to others with relatable stories when they go through difficult experiences and how community can be our greatest lifeline.

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Thought-provoking Quotes:

“What do I have to lose except my dignity?” – Heather Land

“Standup is maybe the hardest form of comedy. It’s not scripted. You don’t have directors and writers. It is a hot seat and it’s live. It’s sink or swim. You picked the hardest way to be funny.” – Jen Hatmaker

“You are in full integrity when you make a change when something is still working. That is a move that is in full alignment which is something to be proud of.” – Jen Hatmaker

“We ask kids ‘what do you want to be when you grow up?” and I don’t think we leave a lot of room for ‘What do I want to be next?’ or ‘what do I want to be when I’m 40, or 50, or 60?’.” – Heather Land 

“I’m sorry, I have not hired you as my life coach.” – Amy Hardin

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

Heather’s I Ain’t Doin’ It Playlist - https://youtu.be/slcwYADYwRc?si=Oe-m-0jf3-wDdVmH

Dear Heathers Podcast - https://www.heatherlandofficial.com/podcast

Heather Lenard - https://www.heatherlenard.com/

Life Coaching with Heather Land - https://www.heatherlandofficial.com/life-coach#book-an-appointment

Nichole Nordeman - https://www.instagram.com/nicholenordeman/

Susannah Lewis (Whoa Susannah) - https://whoasusannah.com/

Jen Hatmaker Book Club Cruise January 30-February 3, 2025 - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/pages/cruise

Only Murders in the Building - https://www.hulu.com/series/only-murders-in-the-building

Should men take baths? - Dear Heathers: Ep. 3 Bath Time with the Swon Brothers - https://apple.co/4eI6s9b

Guest’s Links:

Heathers’s website - https://www.heatherlandofficial.com/

Heather’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/heatherland_iaintdoinit

Heather’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/iaintdoinit/

Heather’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs4omp2klYLTOqqY56j-8Ag

Dear Heathers Podcast - https://www.heatherlandofficial.com/podcast

Connect with Jen!

Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

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