In this heartful conversation, Kath Murray speaks with Dr. Ben Robert, a long-term care physician and palliative care advocate, about what it truly means to integrate a palliative approach across care settings. Dr. Robert highlights how this approach goes beyond managing symptoms to focus on what matters most to individuals. He also sheds light on cachexia, a complex condition often misunderstood by families, where weight loss and decreased appetite occur despite nutritional intake. Together, they explore the importance of relational care, the vital role of personal support workers, and how to normalize frailty, decline, and death with compassion and clarity. Through poignant metaphors, practical stories, and personal reflections, this episode offers a meaningful look at how caregivers and healthcare providers can support quality of life at every stage.