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Rich and Tim debate: help individuals or change the system?

Rich and Tim debate: help individuals or change the system?

Update: 2025-08-15
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In this episode of Messy Social Work, Rich and Tim debate (and disagree about): are social workers failing families by ignoring the system?

It’s just the two of us this time, diving into one of the biggest tensions in the profession. Should we focus our energy on helping individual families build safety and stability? Or is that just papering over the cracks of a system that keeps producing harm?

We’ve got strong opinions — and we don’t always agree

Relational Activism: https://www.relationalactivism.com/

Rich's BASW Child Protection sessions: https://basw.co.uk/social-work-child-protection-professional-practice-programme

Rich Devine's blog: https://richarddevinesocialwork.com/about/

Tim Fisher LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/timfisher101/

Rich Devine LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-devine-181763177/

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Rich and Tim debate: help individuals or change the system?

Rich and Tim debate: help individuals or change the system?

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