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Rich and Tim interview Prof Jill Derrick on the impossible imperative; navigating competing principles in child protection

Rich and Tim interview Prof Jill Derrick on the impossible imperative; navigating competing principles in child protection

Update: 2025-06-12
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We’re joined by the brilliant Professor Jill Derrick from the University of California, Berkeley, for a compelling and thought-provoking conversation on the complexities of child protection practice.

From the competing tensions social workers navigate to the moral distress they often face, Jill offers deep insight into the impossible decisions that define the field. We examine the moral implications behind these choices and the challenging task of evaluating different forms of alternative care.

Jill was a generous, articulate, and deeply thoughtful guest. While we only scratched the surface—touching on just one of her books—we’re left inspired by her extensive body of research and writing.

Buckle in for a wide-ranging discussion that will leave you reflecting long after the episode ends.

Jill Berrick: https://socialwelfare.berkeley.edu/people/jill-duerr-berrick

Relational Activism: https://www.relationalactivism.com/

Rich's BASW Child Protection sessions: https://basw.co.uk/social-work-child-protection-professional-practice-programme

Rich Devine's blog: https://richarddevinesocialwork.com/about/

Tim Fisher LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/timfisher101/

Rich Devine LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-devine-181763177/

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Rich and Tim interview Prof Jill Derrick on the impossible imperative; navigating competing principles in child protection

Rich and Tim interview Prof Jill Derrick on the impossible imperative; navigating competing principles in child protection

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