S02E32 Dimitri Bakanov, Russian Speaker - From Kherson, Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ
Description
Language itself should be a neutral issue; but it never is in the real world. Dimitri Bakanov is a London-based Ukrainian comedian. He is also a native Russian speaker, having lost the full fluency of his Ukrainian when he moved away with his family at the age of 11. When languages are tangled with identity, life throws in a big warfare on top of the existing nationalist tensions, things get complicated.
Dimitri talks about his accent (when he speaks English) that can fool other foreigners but remains nonetheless foreign in the ears of the Brits. Having come to the UK as a young child, he is no longer able to โdoโ an East European accent naturally. But he would not have even if he could, as explained in this episode.
The fairly anglicised accent of Dimitriโs also reflects a more westernised life style/value system, as he remarks on certain cultural differences between him and some other immigrants from Ukraine. The use of language becomes a more evident issue after the second Russian invasion of in 2022, as his native tongue is considered the language of the aggressor, the use of which is deemed unpatriotic by many of his compatriots.
Dimitri explains in this episode his curious and complex relationship with the land he was born in and left as a child and shares his thoughts why as a comedian, he does not mind having an irreverent persona on stage when talking about the war in Ukraine.
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01:07 Intro
02:39 Anglicised pronunciation of Dimitriโs name
03:50 A Russian-speaking Ukrainian
05:28 An accent that non-native English speakers believe to be British but actual British people know itโs foreign
08:29 Incapable of doing โan East Europeanโ accent; timing of learning English
11:07 When native English speakers not knowing their language (eg your vs youโre) and foreign English learners getting too pedantic
14:57 Wouldnโt do a great East European accent even if he could
17:54 How comfortable Dimitri feels claiming the โUkrainian comedian in the UKโ label?
19:04 Cultural differences/clashes with some other Ukrainian immigrants
21:26 Do comedians โhave toโ explain their accents? Dimitriโs take
26:28 Strong Ukrainian accent when Dimitri speaks Russian
29:16 Impacts of Russian invasion on Dimitriโs comedy career and choices he made on stage
31:26 Not wishing to lecture the western audience the war support
36:15 Divided reactions from Ukrainian audience with the irreverent jokes
37:47 How Media fishes for someone to be on TV in the case of an invasion
39:02 Dimitriโs complex relationship with Ukraine
44:17 Dimitriโs complex relationship with the Ukrainian language
49:55 How the timeline of the Russian invasion is defined in western Media
50:42 Summary and caveats
53:39 Life goes on in Ukraine despite the war
55:52 Dimitriโs social media
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Podcast intro music by @Taigenkawabe



