For as long as the internet has existed, there has been internet porn. From ‘tube’ sites to cam girls, to OnlyFans, X-rated material is as synonymous with life online as taking selfies and “getting cancelled”.

In this episode, comedian Olga Koch and journalist Hussein Kesvani reflect on why exactly teenage Hussein was so keen to help his parents sort out the magazines in their shop, find out who exactly owns all the internet porn, and talk with sex worker, writer and activist Lydia Caradonna about how platforms can be less evil.

Human Error is a Daddy’s SuperYacht production for BBC Sounds.