Once upon a time, we were sold the dream that cloud computing, e-readers and space travel might save us from our imminent climate crisis. Turns out, no. Far from being the earth’s heroes, tech might be driving us closer to environmental apocalypse faster than ever before. It’s bleak stuff, sure, but there are jokes as well.

In this episode, comedian Olga Koch and journalist Hussein Kesvani speak to comedian and environmental economist Dr Matt Winning, author of ‘Hot Mess: What On Earth Can We Do About Climate Change?’ and finally get to the bottom of what’s going on in the Richard Linklater extended universe.

Human Error is a Daddy’s SuperYacht production for BBC Sounds.