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Sound & Safety: Rethinking Nervous System Healing with Karen Onderko

Sound & Safety: Rethinking Nervous System Healing with Karen Onderko

Update: 2025-09-11
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How can polyvagal-informed sound therapies support both individual transformation and collective healing?

Welcome to episode 09 of Transformative Harmonics with your host Paula Scatoloni, LCSW, SEP. In this episode, Paula welcomes Karen L. Onderko, co-author with Dr. Stephen Porges of Safe and Sound: A Polyvagal Approach to Connection, Change, and Healing. Karen shares her journey from a career in finance to becoming a leader in advancing polyvagal-informed practices and the Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP).

Karen Onderko is a passionate advocate for advancing the understanding and application of polyvagal principles to improve care, connection, and acceptance among people. She played an important role in bringing SSP from the laboratory to the clinical world, conducting the initial testing, developing the training, and supporting the SSP provider community.

Together with Dr. Porges, she has written a book about SSP titled Safe and Sound: A Polyvagal Approach to Connection, Change and Healing. Regularly witnessing the transformative power of a polyvagal-informed approach, she is eager to support the promotion of education and access to PVT for people in diverse communities throughout the world. Karen is a founding board member of the Polyvagal Institute.

00:00 - Intro

00:54 - Meeting Karen L. Onderko

03:22 - From Finance to Neuroscience

07:12 - Meeting Dr. Stephen Porges & SSP Origins

10:22 - Polyvagal Institute & Adoption

11:46 - Polyvagal Theory in Brief

17:41 - Evolving the SSP Protocol

21:31 - What the SSP Is

24:29 - Writing the Book & Structure

29:07 - Case Studies & Deconstructions

35:48 - Individual to Collective Healing

41:24 - Karen’s SSP Experience & Where to Find the Book

Karen L. Onderko

https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org

Safe and Sound: A Polyvagal Approach for Connection, Change, and Healing

https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Sound-Polyvagal-Approach-Connection/dp/1649632347

Find Paula Online

https://paulascatoloni.com

https://substack.com/@paulascatoloni

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Podcast Produced by Vaudeo Productions

https://vaudeoproductions.com

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