Stumble
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jD and Rico are back and this time they're discussing the last track on the Chronic Town EP, Stumble.
Transcript:
[0:14 ] Hey, it's J.D. here, and I'm joined, as always, by Rico Borrego to discuss the.
[0:18 ] Work of influential American band R.E.M.
Every week, we'll explore a different song in the band's catalog, working through the discography in chronological order to better understand just why this four-piece is considered soseminal, innovative, and downright awesome. So there's that.
Talk to me, Rico. How the hell are things going on your end?
Oh, pretty good. You know, just been hanging in there, still battling this cold, but, you know. Jeez.
I am, you know, I think my immune system, I haven't fully gotten sick, so I've been on my feet.
Strong like bull. But, you know, no stumbles today.
Ah, well played, my friend. A little stumble, though, I guess.
[1:07 ] Ball and game, baby. baby. We're, we're, we're finishing up Chronic Town today.
Yeah. This is kind of a bittersweet, isn't it?
It is, but I got to say, I'm really looking forward to the future.
Cause again, the closer we get to, I guess the band's kind of middle of the career.
Yeah. To me, that's, that's my, that's my era, even though I, again, wasn't alive for that era.
Like, you know, it's, it's you know kind of the time period that i enjoy the most from the band but again chronic town an ep that i have enjoyed but after doing these episodes i'm reallyloving chronic town you know i was familiar with the songs but even today's song song stumble i am, i'm actually in love with it way more than i ever thought i would be dude i am blownaway by how much swagger this band brings and how mature they sound on this song and this whole EP, really.
It's quite staggering when you think that they're just young men and they have this much gusto out of the chute, isn't it?
Yeah, and I think maybe the difference between them and other bands is their progression is not as noticeable as other bands.
[2:31 ] Like, you know, with the last week's episode, we were talking about there were moments that reminded us of future R.E.M. songs and albums. That's right.
And the jump between this EP and their debut album isn't huge. It's not a huge jump.
But like with each album, they do change and they're, you know, adding different sounds and different production and, you know, even like Michael's getting more confident And I thinkwith, with the lyrics, but it's, yeah, it's like they started from a great place and then only got better and better over time.
Yeah. In a sports parlance, they're like a blue chip prospect.
You know, at this point. I'm not quite sure what that means, but, you know, I'm sure you're right about that.
[3:21 ] Well, shall we talk a little bit about Stumble? Yeah. So it's the last song on Chronic Town.
And it's also the longest song on Chronic Town. It is. It's like by a long shot.
Yeah. It's like over five minutes long, which, you know, we'll probably get into it after we We listened to the song, but I personally don't think it needed to be five minutes.
I think it could have been shortened a little bit. And I think that's something that the band will take into account more on future albums.
I mean, they're not a band that has a typically long songs, at least that I can remember.
No, I don't think so either. Maybe once you get to New Adventures in Hi-Fi, there's some that are a little meandering. Yeah, there's one in particular that's seven minutes long, yeah. Yeah.
[4:10 ] But yeah, it's kind of a weird song because it's really lightweight for a five-minute song. It's very playful.
Maybe the most playful on the album.
I can see that. Okay, continue. It also seems like it has maybe the least importance when it comes to lyrics as well.
It's very repetitive, isn't it? Yeah, and I think that's where the five minutes kind of is to its downfall a little bit. Yeah, they could have been more economical.
Yeah, they repeat the parts a good bit more.
I think there's still some interesting lyric aspects, and there are a couple of bridges.
So, like, there's parts of the song that aren't just, you know, verse, chorus, verse, chorus.
Like, you know, there's other bit of songwriting that goes into the song.
[5:04 ] But, yeah, I mean, it's just kind of, it's a feel-good song to me.
It's kind of like a Guardian of Night, but it's just not as tight to me.
I can agree with that. Yeah, it does meander a little bit.
Yeah, and again, if this song was on the radio today, I would prefer it to almost anything that's probably on the radio today.
[5:27 ] There's no doubt. It's very funny. I was listening to Chronic Town with my wife.
I may have already shared this anecdote, but I remember saying to her, does this sound 40 years old to you?
And she was like, not really, but she's like, you probably need to ask our kids.
Wow. Well, they might have a different answer. That's true. But yeah, I agree.
It does not sound dated. Even the production, for the most part, on all these songs on Chronic Town and Murmur, they sound...
And Murmur, well, when we get to Murmur, there's kind of a reason why the band went into that album with certain expectations.
But yeah, I mean, everything sounds smooth and sounds fresh, even if you listen to it today.
Yeah, I would agree. Should we give it a spin? Let's give it a spin and we'll talk about it after. All right.
[11:51 ] Alright, well, that was Stumble, last song off of Chronic Town.
JD, what do you feel about this song? I'm curious of where you would rank it on this short EP.
It's interesting, because it's very sing-along, so there's nothing offensive about this song at all.
Maybe the duration. But there's certainly nothing offensive about it, but it's probably fourth or fifth for me.
Yeah, I would agree with that, too. But I will say before, you know, doing this podcast, before doing this episode, it's not a song that I would go back to outside of listening to the wholeEP all the way through.
But now I'm thinking of like playlists that I would put the song on because it has a really good feel.
I mean it kind of begins the song begins with a lot of like the kind of weird sound effects that they would have and Some of the earlier songs like yeah later for Europe like there's someweird kind of sounds and then you hear Michael laughing And I believe he says we're great, Yeah, like it sounds like they're having fun, and I think he says the word teeth which I don'tThey were must have been having a conversation or something like when they were starting the the recording, but yeah Yeah.
[13:09 ] You know, you have that beginning guitar riff that I'm not sure how he's playing it, but it almost sounds like harmonics at time, which I love guitar harmonics. Yeah.
And, you know, it has a really poppy, breezy kind of feel to it.
Very poppy, very breezy. Yeah. You know, Peter's playing those arpeggios.
[13:33 ] Mike's bass line. It's not like the most distinctive bass line he's ever played, but it has a real like galloping rhythm to it.
I have the word pulsating written down. Yeah, yeah.
Kind of, you know, it just between his bass and Bill's drums, it has a great energy to it.
It's like driving. But at the same time, when Michael starts singing that melody, it's not like an in-your-face, it's not like Wolves Lower, where it's kind of dark and fast and driving in thatsense.
It's still breezy, but it's not a slow, breezy song. It's upbeat.
It gets you moving. Yeah. Yeah.
I can see early on at shows, people really getting up and dancing to this one.
The funny thing, too, about that is, from the research I did, I think the song was only played about 12 times live.
Are you kidding me? I think it's like the one song on the EP that didn't get a lot of live plays.
It was only played 12 times between 1981 through 1984. Wow.
[14:40 ] Wow, and then they retired it. Yeah, and they came back, like I've been saying in all the past episodes.
[14:48 ] In their later tours, 2007-2008, they brought back most of the songs from this EP except for this song, which I can kind of see why, because unless they played maybe a shorterversion of this song, it's just a song that I feel, live today, people wouldn't appreciate.
Back in the 80s, I think this song would have slayed live, but maybe not in today's times um interesting lyrically i really don't know what the song's about no me neither i have no idea imean just i i mean i love the phrase you know we'll stumble through the yard it just sounds like something you would say or do when you