THE Podcast - Awakening
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🌿 NEW EPISODE: Awakening 🌿
🎙️ Ep. 01 of The Human Experience Podcast is here!
In this deeply reflective episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi invite you into a conversation about surrender, spiritual remembering, and the cycles of awakening and forgetting.
✨ “The forgetting is the remembering.”
🌀 Meditation, music, and presence become anchors in the human experience.
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Awakening Transcript:
Dr. Carlos Garcia:
Welcome to THE Podcast – The Human Experience Podcast, where we explore the depths of spirituality and our own personal journeys and experiences. I’m Dr. Carlos Garcia…
Supna Doshi:
…and I’m Supna Doshi. In this space, we’ll reflect on the wisdom of some of the most profound spiritual teachers, from Eckhart Tolle to Ram Dass, Wayne Dyer, and Michael Singer. Together, we’ll dive into their teachings and share our own insights that have guided us on our own paths of self-discovery.
Dr. Carlos Garcia:
Each episode, we’ll feature inspiring clips from these masters, weaving them into our own reflections and conversations on how spirituality has enriched our daily lives, deepen our understanding of ourselves, and led us to a more meaningful existence.
Supna Doshi:
So, take a deep breath, open your heart, and join us on this journey of exploration. Welcome to THE Podcast – The Human Experience Podcast.
[00:00:41 ] Supna Doshi: I think that's the power of surrender that is in the, in essence, when we can let go of our beliefs and our, uh, everything we've been taught and everything we've been told and everything we believe. Mm-hmm. Just the most miraculous things [00:01:00 ] happen they're noticing. And the funny thing to me, the funniest part is how easy it is to forget how quickly I can forget the magic of this and go straight back into my human, or, you know, there's so many different words for it being asleep or being human, or the ego voice or whatever it is where you.
[00:01:24 ] Supna Doshi: I forget for a little while that, you know, like I lose my, [00:01:30 ] my, um, my balance isn't even the right word. Like, I just lose my sense of spirit for a while.
[00:01:37 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. I mean, I, I I really love what you said there. You like, fall back asleep. You just, you, you, you know, with some clients I describe it as like the, the system that.
[00:01:50 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Pulls us away from remembering is so strong, right? Like it's just, maybe, maybe it's meant to be that way, but it's so strong, right? [00:02:00 ] Culturally, the messages, the, the, the desires that we're sort of right are just naturally built into us, right? Like just pulling our attention away constantly. Mm. You know, to the point where, you know, I'll say to clients like, this is my remembering.
[00:02:17 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: This is my remembering. The music is the remembering. The meditation is the remembering. The pictures I keep around me are the, remember, like, like you just, or at least my experience has been, you build [00:02:30 ] more and more frequent and, um, and, and just more in terms of you just more remembering, right? You just gotta, you just gotta keep.
[00:02:42 ] Supna Doshi: Yeah, because it
[00:02:43 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: so easy,
[00:02:43 ] Supna Doshi: but it's so easy to forget. It's also so hard to stay in that space.
[00:02:47 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Oh, so hard. Yeah. I mean, I, I, you know, I see why yogis go off and meditate for 20, 18 hours a day. Right? Like,
[00:02:55 ] Supna Doshi: yeah,
[00:02:57 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I get it.
[00:02:57 ] Supna Doshi: And it was interesting 'cause I was listening to a [00:03:00 ] podcast by, uh, uh, Randolph the other day, and there was, it was like a q and a session, and the question was.
[00:03:08 ] Supna Doshi: You know, how do you like how, why do we fall asleep and awaken and fall asleep and awaken? And his answer was that it is actually all part of the awakening process.
[00:03:22 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: The forgetting. The forgetting is the remembering.
[00:03:25 ] Ram Daas: To the extent that you attempt to push away, falling back asleep, that is [00:03:30 ] already another asleep mechanism.
[00:03:32 ] Ram Daas: But in a funny way to say, there's really nothing you can do about it because even your attempts to get out of it are all a certain kind of sleepwalking, but in the same moment, you can't not do something about it. So you do. You climb a mountain, you follow a path, you do any of the methods that you are attracted to, for example, quieting your mind.
[00:03:54 ] Ram Daas: Or, um, opening your heart, uh, like [00:04:00 ] meditating or singing or going to church or service or whatever, or pitting the mind against the mind through Zen and Koans or whatever. All of it will push you and push you, but sooner or later you're gonna have to, you get trapped by your methods and they'll keep you asleep and you'll become a good meditator or, uh, you know, uh, I love Christ, but it'll be a sleep kind of statement.
[00:04:24 ] Ram Daas: And then you'll have to let go of that one too. But all of these are useful techniques to [00:04:30 ] keep working and you've gotta hear what your own technique is. Uh, the first thing is not to be bugged about going back to sleep. Just experience that it was grace that, that that death allowed you to awaken for a moment because the minute you try to grab onto the memory of what it was, you're just holding onto an old dead butterfly.
[00:04:51 ] Ram Daas: So you go back to sleep and then you wake up again. The fact that you're even asking that question is the awakening process at work. You have to stand [00:05:00 ] back one step further and see your whole life, the awakening and the going to sleep, all as awakening. Just get into a bigger time span and you'll be able to allow the dance to go on up and down and up and down, okay?
[00:05:13 ] Ram Daas: But you have to listen for your own method, and people have unique methods that they will be attractive to them.
[00:05:19 ] Supna Doshi: It's mind blowing.
[00:05:21 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah,
[00:05:21 ] Supna Doshi: because I wanna know how it happened for you guys.
[00:05:24 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:05:24 ] Supna Doshi: How'd you get on this path? I remember, I remember like it was yesterday when we were [00:05:30 ] sitting in whatever cafe that was
[00:05:32 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: the broken yolk cafe.
[00:05:34 ] Supna Doshi: The Broken Yolk cafe that I remember.
[00:05:38 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah, yeah. And, and we were sitting there and I must have just been in my tirade, right? Like, like I can, I can, I can familiar, I'm very familiar with this aspect of myself. I, I mean, 'cause I still experience it at times, just probably not to the same degree, but I think I was just spouting out like where I'm not yet, [00:06:00 ] like all of my frustrations about professionally and.
[00:06:03 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like, what am I supposed to be doing? And probably something about financially not being somewhere and just, yeah. This like anxious, attaching, desiring energy, just kind of spilling all over the eggs, right? Like yeah, I remember it like it was yesterday. And you, um, during that conversation, um, suggested Mickey singer's the surrender experiment.
[00:06:27 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Um, in a couple of days or maybe some [00:06:30 ] weeks later, I, I, I bought it and started to read it. I, I wanna go back and read that book because I, I, I know that that was the beginning of the process for me of understanding that there was a world I can live in that wasn't driven from this angst. That wasn't driven from, from, from all of the messages I had received up till that point in my life about how you live a, a, a successful or fulfilled [00:07:00 ] or happy life, whatever, you know, whatever that thing is.
[00:07:02 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Um, and, and yeah, that, that book that sort of was, was that first. Sort of opening, right? That first sort of message that through letting go, we can arrive at a place of, of just greater peace, greater happiness, greater joy for our lives. And I think part of, you know. That spoke to me was how successful he became by letting go.
[00:07:27 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I was like, oh yeah, this 'cause
[00:07:29 ] Supna Doshi: [00:07:30 ] that's what I want.
[00:07:31 ] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah, that's what I want. So, of course, right. So yeah, it was the first step. That was the first step. Um, and then the, I think the thing for me that really just pushed it, uh, yeah, that, that just really, uh, where I went from knowing in my mind to knowing in my soul.
[00:07:51 ] Michael Singer: I, I think the right place to start is not with what happened, but with the inner awakening that happened, and that is back in my twenties. I was [00:08:00 ] in graduate school finishing a doctorate in economics, and I woke up and I can't explain why or anything like that. I just started to see that. I was in here and that my mind was