A Game of Thrones has inspired characters who contain such strong good qualities, like honor or justice, that it can lead to his or her death. 

And writing classes teach developing characters with strengths and weaknesses to make them well rounded. A heroine can be a skilled warrior AND too self assured. 

This makes a more complex character, one that is beyond two dimensions, but what about a good character that just loses it and takes the first punch?

In this episode of the Am Writing Fantasy podcast, Autumn and Jesper discuss the Evil Within.

The episode is inspired by this blog post: https://www.amwritingfantasy.com/the-evil-within/

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Read the full transcript below.

(Please note that it's automatically generated and while the AI is super cool, it isn't perfect. There may be misspellings or incorrect words on occasion).

Narrator (2s):

You're listening to The Am. Writing Fantasy Podcast in today's publishing landscape, you can reach fans all over the world. Query letters are a thing of the past. You don't even need a literary agent. There is nothing standing in the way of making a living from writing. Join two best selling authors who have self published more than 20 books between them now on to the show with your hosts, Autumn Birt and Jesper Schmidt.

Jesper (30s):

Hello, I'm Jesper

Autumn (32s):

And I'm, Autumn.

Jesper (33s):

This is episode 155 of the Am Writing Fantasy podcast. And when studying the craft of writing, we learn about creating characters who are well-rounded, who have weaknesses and strengths. But what happens when characters unleased the evil within?

Autumn (55s):

I like this topic because, well, I do like gray and nuanced characters. I like fillings with good traits and I like heroes with not always the best of traits. I think it makes them more relatable. So this is going to be a fun podcast to explore the dark side of your heroes.

Jesper (1m 14s):

Yeah. Yeah. Autumn wrote a blog post quite a while back for the AmWritingFantasy a block. So that's sort of the starting point for this conversation. I guess you could call it at least that's what inspired us to dive into the pool of evil to The

Autumn (1m 34s):

It's good. It's the good evil pool, right? So it should be kind of, I don't know if it's shallow early, deep in a couple areas, but we'll figure it out.

Jesper (1m 42s):

Yeah, yeah. That's yeah, that'll be interesting. We'll see where it takes us.

Autumn (1m 47s):

So how are things over in Denmark?

Jesper (1m 51s):

Well, not much as chains, to be honest since last week, you know, I'm still just preparing for the referee instructor class and practicing presentations. And I had a meeting the other day with, with my mentor. And so, yeah, I still have not gotten back to writing at all.

Autumn (2m 11s):

Well, I think you have enough going on that. That seems fair. Plus, it's giving me time to read book two so that I'll be ready to help plot book three. So take your time. You're good. Fine.

Jesper (2m 25s):

Good. Don't worry about it.

Autumn (2m 27s):

You deserve the break?

Jesper (2m 30s):

Yeah. Well, something funny. I wanted to mention, you know, how in the master mailing list, because that we have available for sale on I'm Am Writing Fantasy dot com total block there. If somebody wants to check that out, but, but you know, in that course, how we talk about how you can possibly segment your email list?

Autumn (2m 52s):

Yes. I remember that. Yeah.

Jesper (2m 55s):

Okay. Yeah. So our insurance company should really learn a bit about this segmentation of email lists. Yeah.

Autumn (3m 3s):

Oh,

Jesper (3m 5s):

The letter from the, or an email rather, from the insurance company yesterday, and then I logged in to read what this message was about? Because I was not expecting any message. So I was like, okay. And then I read that email from them and they just wanted to let me know that in some cases they have not treated cases concerning pregnant, pregnant women in the proper way. And they want to let me know that this would change going forward. Okay. That was exactly my thing of like, okay, I'm not a woman. I don't think I'm pregnant. At least I don't, I don't believe so.

Jesper (3m 48s):

So I was just thinking maybe you should learn a bit about segmenting your email list, at least at least segment between men and women. I think that should not be too difficult.

Autumn (3m 59s):

Well, maybe they thought, you know, in case you wanted to let your wife know that, you know, the car and send the message to her. I agree. They should have been able to figure that one out.

Jesper (4m 10s):

Yeah. I mean, may, maybe there's something about it that they thought like they wanted to inform people, you know, in general, like a general information that we are sorry that we have. I mean, I fully understand the message, nothing wrong with the message there. Right. It's good that if they had discovered that they have been doing something wrong and they recognize it and they would want to correct it, I'm all for that very good, good information. Right. But couldn't you just like maybe put an announcement on your website or on your blog or something to say, like, I just, I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand why they're sending out emails to males, letting them know about pregnant women and how they, how they handle cases for pregnant women.

Jesper (4m 50s):

I don't quite understand.

Autumn (4m 52s):

I didn't understand either. They took the least, they did the,

Jesper (4m 58s):

Yeah, yeah. Maybe it was the intern who was at work that day. And it was like, who am I supposed to send it to? I don't know. Send it to everybody. Okay.

Autumn (5m 7s):

I can do that. I don't know how to segment. Oh, there you go. Well, you know, I guess it's better to be over informative, less informative. Maybe they just never had thought about putting a gender question in their information.

Jesper (5m 25s):

Well, they have like a, what is that called in English? I don't know. Dennis Deniz is like, you have a, it's not a social security number, but you have like a number, you know, what is it called, named you don't you have like in the U S like a number in the official systems for you yourself, you know,

Autumn (5m 49s):

Their social security number.

Jesper (5m 51s):

Is it that in your yeah, but, okay. But anyway, they do have that number, a numbers ending on equal numbers is women and unequal numbers are men. So it's not that difficult to work out.

Autumn (6m 6s):

Yeah. And it's not like that over here. It's pretty random.

Jesper (6m 10s):

I couldn't imagine. Yes. Why am I not surprised

Autumn (6m 14s):

You threw something at the wall? It seems to be working at least it hasn't collapsed in weight yet, so we're good.

Jesper (6m 21s):

Well, okay. I'm not going to comment on that.

Autumn (6m 25s):

That's what I covered. Comment on the U S government. Please

Jesper (6m 29s):

Know, that's what I was thinking.

Autumn (6m 31s):

This is not a political podcast.

Jesper (6m 34s):

No, just let it fly. Let it fly. Didn't hear anything. So, but how I think so on your end,

Autumn (6m 42s):

Pretty good. Just a lots going on doing a little bit of actually be doing a little bit of a seasonal job and just rearranging life and we're going to be moving. And we have some extended family worries with mental health and old age. So that's, you know, weighing on us and, but the good news is at least I've had some gotten to create some really awesome book covers recently. And I'm on like the last chapter for magic unleash. So I'm just moving it up and got to check some of the weird character traits that we came up with, especially dialect. So once I finished that off to the editor, so I'm really excited and I can't wait to delve into the second book, which is being dark gods.

Autumn (7m 28s):

And then we have to figure out the plotting for the final book and the name. We still only one, we have a name, so we

Jesper (7m 34s):

Have no name for us.

Autumn (7m 36s):

So we have to name it and we have to come up with the plot. So that's all going good. So, you know, there's, there's bright lights here and there and mid the murkiness life chaotic. Eventually I keep saying this, eventually my life will settle down, but yeah, we can hope I have hope.

Jesper (7m 55s):

I hope it's a good note to end on

Narrator (8m 0s):

A week on the internet with The Am Writing Fantasy Podcast.

Jesper (8m 6s):

So just a couple of thank yous to share here today. First of all, Pamela Payne joined us on Patrion. So thank you so much for your support, Pamela. Yes. And we also have moose beard. That's actually the name that it goes by on Patrion, but it must be at rejoined us as well. So thank you for that. We really appreciate it.

Autumn (8m 33s):

Yes. I enjoyed the conversations with moose beard. I know I've talked to him a couple of times in the past, so I'm excited. He came back to us after a little hiatus and it's wonderful to meet you, Pamela. Thank you so much for your support on Patrion