Welcome to Say More, the podcast where we go beyond the performance. In this series, I sit down with creators, healers, and thought leaders to explore how they navigate life’s crossroads—especially when the old scripts no longer serve.

Today I’m joined by Sandra Nelly, a leading voice in astrocartography and Human Design. We trace her path from early spiritual awakenings to building a business that helps others find where they’re meant to be—literally and energetically.

This episode is part cartography, part cosmology, part self-inquiry. We talk about zodiacal releasing and how it can frame the big transitions. We explore the synergy between personal and business charts. And we unpack why the location you choose matters—not because it’s perfect, but because it speaks to who you’re becoming.

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🌍 Connect with Sandra

Website: sandranelly.com

Instagram: @astrologyventures

Substack: Take Off with Astrology

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Instagram: @brookielyons

Substack: We Need to Talk About

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🔑 Key Themes

How astrology can inform real-world decisions

The energetic imprint of place—and how to read it

Using zodiacal releasing to map creative or career cycles

What happens when your Human Design and chart align with your business

Navigating relocation without spiritual bypass

Letting your intuition lead—even when it’s inconvenient

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🧭 Chapters

00:00 Sandra’s Spiritual Origin Story

03:49 Tools and Rituals in Her Daily Practice

06:56 Breaking Down Astrocartography

10:20 Syncing Personal and Business Charts

13:37 National Charts and Collective Energy

20:13 Practical Advice for Relocation

20:43 Family Patterns in Location Astrology

22:56 Local Space Lines: What They Mean

24:33 Zodiacal Releasing and Life Timing

29:51 Software, Sites, and Tools She Recommends

32:02 Travel, Storylines, and Soul Pulls

33:50 Building a Business with Human Design

41:37 Trusting the Quiet Inner Voice

42:43 Final Thoughts on Home, Place, and Self

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🧰 Resources Mentioned

Free charts: astro.com, astro-seek.com

Paid tools: Astro Gold (Mac), Solar Fire (Windows)

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🎙 Hosted by Brooke Lyons

Actress, writer, mother, mystic, and voice behind Say More—a podcast that explores identity, reinvention, and what happens when you stop performing and start telling the truth.

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